Shia Islam for Dummies: Ask Those who Know

[Abu Hurayrah]

come on! convince me of sunnisim... Im not a shia in the modern understanding since I dnt believe in imamate... I said I was a shia in the understanding of believing Hz Ali 2 be the rightful heir of prophet.... so convince me now of ur beliefs!

Then you are not a shia at all, since not believing in imamat is kufr in shi'ism. But denying the Sunnah is also a dangerous thing. Spreading lies on muslims, not regular muslims, but the deciples of the prophet is also a dangerous thing to do. Opening your mouth about history without basic knowledge on the matter is also dangerous.

So now what? Ali was the caliph, now what? It is 1400 years ago, what are you going to do in yout grave, in Barzakh, your are going to tell the Malaika, I did not believe in Bukhari, and I was half a shia, but I don't really know what I am, Ali should have been the caliph !

LOL , come on dreamer, you are smarter than that

[Dreamer]

The thread may have been derailed... thanks 2 the likes of u... I posted a few hadith from sources which u regard as 100%.... none of u can defend them.... all u do be evasive and run away.... rich!

[شمله ور خراساني]

LOOK IT UP IN A BOOKSTORE... UNLIKE IU NASEBEE I DMNT LINK 2 EVERYTHING WHILE RUNNING AWAY FROM THINGS... i WILL SEND U THE PUBLISHER ETC FOR SAID BOOK WHEN I find it U nasebee

I am so glad that you did not ran out on me.

You don't need to type in capital letters. I can read what you are saying.

Please give us full description of this book.

We want to learn about Shi'ism.

And why I are you insulting me by calling me a nasibi? what makes you think I am a nasibi?

[شمله ور خراساني]

both fiqh and aqueeda are discussed oin said book with refrences 2 shia books... in said book....

with reference to which shi'ite books?

[Dreamer]

Then you are not a shia at all, since not believing in imamat is kufr in shi'ism. But denying the Sunnah is also a dangerous thing. Spreading lies on muslims, not regular muslims, but the deciples of the prophet is also a dangerous thing to do. Opening your mouth about history without basic knowledge on the matter is also dangerous.

So now what? Ali was the caliph, now what? It is 1400 years ago, what are you going to do in yout grave, in Barzakh, your are going to tell the Malaika, I did not believe in Bukhari, and I was half a shia, but I don't really know what I am, Ali should have been the caliph !

LOL , come on dreamer, you are smarter than that

One uses common sence.... The caliphs were human beings... ITS PPL like u wo have elevated them 2 the status of almost infallible... I take an unbiased look at history and history says what it says.... Hardcore sunni sources say what they do.... I cant help that! No1 has 2 believe in bukhari 2 be a sunni.... though it helps I suppose.... NOt all live under sahih....

[Dreamer]

with reference to which shi'ite books?

read it and ull find out wont u!

[شمله ور خراساني]

perhaps u can guide me 2 ur version of sunnisim.... after all im the misguided 1! shame that u cant defend bukhari.... how will u convince me u nasebee?

Before we teach you about Islam, you need to bring this thread to its logical conclusion. Teach us about Shi'ism.

Give us proper scholarly material that we can study so we know what Shi'ism is about.

Maybe the truth is with you? Why are you unwilling to teach us?

[شمله ور خراساني]

this discussion is closed u nasebee....

why? Did you ran out of options?

[Dreamer]

Then you are not a shia at all, since not believing in imamat is kufr in shi'ism. But denying the Sunnah is also a dangerous thing. Spreading lies on muslims, not regular muslims, but the deciples of the prophet is also a dangerous thing to do. Opening your mouth about history without basic knowledge on the matter is also dangerous.

So now what? Ali was the caliph, now what? It is 1400 years ago, what are you going to do in yout grave, in Barzakh, your are going to tell the Malaika, I did not believe in Bukhari, and I was half a shia, but I don't really know what I am, Ali should have been the caliph !

LOL , come on dreamer, you are smarter than that

Im quoting Bukahri and other sunni sources on the sahaba.... Im not spreading anything thats not contained in there

[Dreamer]

why? Did you ran out of options?

no because u lack capacity 2 understand how 2 debate or 2 take in anything (other than whats approved by abdul wahab of course!)

[شمله ور خراساني]

Dnt u like being called what u are? namely a nasebee????

why do you resort to name calling? Is this what shi'ism is about? Name calling? Should we leave being Sunnis and start becoming like you by calling people names?

[Dreamer]

Before we teach you about Islam, you need to bring this thread to its logical conclusion. Teach us about Shi'ism.

Give us proper scholarly material that we can study so we know what Shi'ism is about.

Maybe the truth is with you? Why are you unwilling to teach us?

clear example of how thick headed u are,... despite being explained 2 many times!....

[Abu Hurayrah]

Im quoting Bukahri and other sunni sources on the sahaba.... Im not spreading anything thats not contained in there

Yes, and I answered them one by one, I did not see your reply on it. So take your time.

[شمله ور خراساني]

The thread may have been derailed... thanks 2 the likes of u... I posted a few hadith from sources which u regard as 100%.... none of u can defend them.... all u do be evasive and run away.... rich!

You posted hadith from a book you do not consider as authentic. So help us out? we are confused what to believe and what not to believe. And the book you are refering to, you say it refers to other shi'ite books. Which books?

Please help us. We want to learn from you.

[Dreamer]

Yes, and I answered them one by one, I did not see your reply on it. So take your time.

No u didnt! psoting links is not refuting... btw Hz Abu Dar was annoyed at what?