Shia Islam for Dummies: Ask Those who Know

[Dreamer]

but we are not here to discuss sunnis. We are here to learn about shi'ism.

again learn 2 debate! There is no point talking 2 bigots like urself.... u were unable 2 discuss my points... ur posts are being ignored!

[شمله ور خراساني]

didnt the khawrij form in Hz Alis caliphate? after the battle of siffan where Hz Ali fought against muawiyya.... why did Muawiyya go 2 war against hz Ali?

I dont know. Which books do i need to read to find out?

[Dreamer]

@Abu Huraira... U I can discuss with... U after all do answer and are not here 2 bash others like some rather discuss like an adult

[Dreamer]

I dont know. Which books do i need to read to find out?

Bigot learn 2 debate.... im done talking 2 ppl who dont understand anything other tha abdul wahab!

[شمله ور خراساني]

again learn 2 debate! There is no point talking 2 bigots like urself.... u were unable 2 discuss my points... ur posts are being ignored!

why are you ignoring me? I am being nice to you. I keep asking you politely.

But what do you do in return? You call me names and insult me.

Is this what shi'ism is about? Insulting people who want to learn from you?

[شمله ور خراساني]

Bigot learn 2 debate.... im done talking 2 ppl who dont understand anything other tha abdul wahab!

well, give that which is other than abdul wahhab so I can learn. Why are you not helping me? Which books?

[Dreamer]

u are bing ignored! a bit like how u ignored my posts when I mentioned Bukhari

[شمله ور خراساني]

@Abu Huraira... U I can discuss with... U after all do answer and are not here 2 bash others like some rather discuss like an adult

Are you implying that I am bashing you? Where have I said anything bad? You keep calling me a bigot and a naseebi. And I am politely asking you questions you refrain from asnwering.

What is this?

[شمله ور خراساني]

u are bing ignored! a bit like how u ignored my posts when I mentioned Bukhari

I did not ignore you. I asked you if those narrations you posted from Bukhari were authentic and reliable. You said no. So now I am confused. Help me out here, will ya?

Why are you not answering me?

[Abu Hurayrah]

nope... he was annoyed at caliph 3 nepotisim.... correct me if Im wrong but why did the ppl rise up againts the caliph if not 4 amongst other things his nepotism?

It where the KhawaariJ mainly, why did they opposed Ali (ra)? Why did they fight him? A large group of them saw Ali (ra) as their godly oppointed leader, but when he agreed to compromise with Muawiya (ra), the people started hating him, for this reason: Why is our (infallible imam) compromising with the enemy? That is against Gods orders), so they opposed him as well. This was the era of great fitna and an era of great calamities. So it is not strange that Abu Dhar al Ghifari (ra) was annoyed and he isolated himself.

Not no mention that Uthman (r.a) was killed by the khariji's, they even did not let his body to be buried, Uthman (ra) could take security, but he did not, Great Sahaba like Hassan (ra), Abdullah ibn Zubayr (ra), and other Sahaba which participated in the battle of Badr, wanted to help the calipha, but he refused. Muawiyah wanted to send an army, but he refused, and in the end, he was slaughtered, while reading the Qur'aan, the aya, "" "Verily, Allah sufficeth thee; He is the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing'' [12: 137] ' This Qur'aan is still in the museaum with his blood on it.

Uthman (ra) was the person, the businessman who gave up everything for Islaam, when some khariji's came to the Sahaba complaining, they refuted them one by one.

[شمله ور خراساني]

helloooO!

Are you there? Please answer me.

[Dreamer]

u did not explain them... rather u have run around the bush... now ur questions are being ignored... as for shia faith again i refer u 2 a shia scholar as discussed in Al Mujahirat......
It will answer most of ur questions...

[شمله ور خراساني]

u did not explain them... rather u have run around the bush... now ur questions are being ignored... as for shia faith again i refer u 2 a shia scholar as discussed in Al Mujahirat......
It will answer most of ur questions...

why should i explain something that you claim not to be authentic? If you say it is not authentic then give us that which is authentic and reliable.

Why do you say you are going to ignore me, and then you keep replying back without actually answering the question?

[Dreamer]

yawn again... learn ow 2 debate... this is the last post that i direct 2 u...

[شمله ور خراساني]

yawn again... learn ow 2 debate... this is the last post that i direct 2 u...

why are you not answering me? Which books does al mujahirat refer to? Which books are reliable sources?

Please answer them. Where can I learn more about this mujahirat book? I've googled it and I cant find it. So please give us full discription of this book so we can find it and read it.