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  • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
    When u debate with a christian u use Bible..
    when u debate with a hindu u use the vedas etc
    when u debate with a sunni like urself u use BUKHARI....
    in debates u use sources which the person with whom u are debating with accepts....

    Does that mean that whenever you use a verse from any of those books to affirm your own dogma, that then it becomes a reliable source, but when it contradicts your dogma it is suddenly unreliable?

    What is this debate about? Religion, right? If we believe in Islam, then clearly we have to believe in the hereafter.

    So this is not just a random debate without any clear purpose. Its about truth and falsehood.

    So if the truth is with the shi'ites, don't you want us to accept the truth and be saved from hell fire?
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    • What hadith is he talking about? He keeps telling me to open my eyes, but I still don't know what he thinks or means.

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      • defend the hadith... all uve done is show u cant!
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        • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
          loool Oh my days.... If I dont accept it as truth... U STILL DO... so u have 2 defend it! Im showing u the inconsistancies in Bukhari! Inconsistancies which according u ppl who accept it as 100% truth shldnt be there!
          why is Bukhari inconsistent? Because some narrations can be used by Shi'ites to affirm your beliefs and others are not?
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          • Originally posted by Abu Hurayrah View Post
            What hadith is he talking about? He keeps telling me to open my eyes, but I still don't know what he thinks or means.
            Ive posted it once... I wont repeat myself.... ask ur nasebee friend... he couldnt... neither can u!
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            • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
              Ive posted it once... I wont repeat myself.... ask ur nasebee friend... he couldnt... neither can u!
              Hahah, I didn't want to hurt your feelings, come on, post it again, I really don't know with which narration you have a problem.

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              • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                defend the hadith... all uve done is show u cant!
                why should we defend it? Against what? You said yourself that you do not accept sahih al bukhari as the truth. So why should we defend something which you obviously do not consider as the truth?

                Since, clearly you are convinced that the truth is with you. So why are you not cooperating here?
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                • Because u accept it to be true yet it is going againt ur beliefs! Thats why
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                  • If u can defend it then Bukhari is true... if u cant then its not.... it doesnt matter what i think.... i am only pointing it out 2 u .... thats called debate
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                    • sangar evidently ur thick... u dont get how 2 debate... its pointles talking 2 u.... uve run away from the inaccuracies that Ive shown in Bukhari that go against ur beliefs....
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                      • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                        If u can defend it then Bukhari is true... if u cant then its not.... it doesnt matter what i think.... i am only pointing it out 2 u .... thats called debate
                        you are pointing out to me what? That bukhari is inconsistent? In what is it inconsistent? Because some narrations are used by you as evidence tosupport shi'ite dogma?
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                        • Its still in Bukhari.... why does it support shia dogma then? naturally since its a sunni book it shldnt!
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                          • now get 2 answering those hadith.... otherwise this discussion is closed u BIGOT... u can shia bash all u like but cant defend ur own sources....
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                            • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                              sangar evidently ur thick... u dont get how 2 debate... its pointles talking 2 u.... uve run away from the inaccuracies that Ive shown in Bukhari that go against ur beliefs....
                              I am not think. And I am not running away. I want you to convince me. I am asking you something.

                              But you keep throwing your cheap comments at me saying I cannot debate because I won't play ball according to your rules.

                              You want me to accept Bukhari as the truth whenever it suites your agenda, and disbelieve in it whenever it contradicts your shi'ite domga.

                              Are you being honest with me?
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                              • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                                now get 2 answering those hadith.... otherwise this discussion is closed u BIGOT... u can shia bash all u like but cant defend ur own sources....
                                why are you calling me a bigot? And how am I bashing shi'ites?
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