Shia Islam for Dummies: Ask Those who Know

[Abu Hurayrah]

Dreamer which hadith from Sahih bukhari?

[Dreamer]

no... when u debate u use ur the person with whom ur debating with sources that he/she accepts... I have used BUKHARI as thats something u accept... I necessaily do not have 2 believe in that source myself

[Dreamer]

Dreamer which hadith from Sahih bukhari?

Use ur eyes....

[شمله ور خراساني]

@Sangar... 1st learn how 2 debate and use sources with whom ur debating with then come and talk... u cant defend ur hadith which casts ur beliefs in a negative light thats fine... just say it... stop running away from them

I dont need to defend anything. Your shi'ite compadre made this thread to educate us "dummies" about Shi'ism.

So educate. Tell me. The source you are using (Bukhari) is it a reliable source or not?

[Dreamer]

Defend the hadiths I posted u bigot then talk

[شمله ور خراساني]

no... when u debate u use ur the person with whom ur debating with sources that he/she accepts... I have used BUKHARI as thats something u accept... I necessaily do not have 2 believe in that source myself

So are you saying you do not believe that what is in Bukhari as the truth, but you are using it just to to what exactly?

[Dreamer]

^clearly some1 does not know how 2 debate... learn how 2 then we will talk
ur the 1 who accepts t as sahih not me

[شمله ور خراساني]

Defend the hadiths I posted u bigot then talk

why am I a bigot? I am being impartial here. If you want to convince me that the hadith holds any truth, please say something about the book. Is it a reliable book or not?

How can I believe the stuff you post here as reliable avidence if you do not accept the source yourself?

[شمله ور خراساني]

^clearly some1 does not know how 2 debate... learn how 2 then we will talk
ur the 1 who accepts t as sahih not me

You are avoiding my request to say whether the source you present is reliable or not, and I am the one who doesn't know how to debate?

[Dreamer]

U accept it as reliable.... Thats why i use it! Its up 2 u now 2 defend it! Thats how debating works... Ur not in ur salafie circles now

[Dreamer]

When u debate with a christian u use Bible..
when u debate with a hindu u use the vedas etc
when u debate with a sunni like urself u use BUKHARI....
in debates u use sources which the person with whom u are debating with accepts....

[شمله ور خراساني]

U accept it as reliable.... Thats why i use it! Its up 2 u now 2 defend it! Thats how debating works... Ur not in ur salafie circles now

why should I defend it if you post it here for us as evidence to support Shi'ite dogma. Yet you don't believe in the authenticity of the book?

[Abu Hurayrah]

LOL, If I was a shi'a, I would fill in an application on your name to a mental house , come on, he is asking you something.

- If you want to convince us, you at least need to speak the truth, (if sahih bukhari is a lie), then why are you convincing us with a lie? And even that you can't prove.

- An addition.


If one counts the number of ahadith narrated in Bukhari from Abu Hurairah, one will come up with a figure more than 1000. This however does not mean that Bukhari has narrated 1000 different ahadith from Abu Hurairah. Many of the ahadith in hadith books are repeated often with minor differences in the context. According to Ibn Hajar, in Fat'h Al-Bari, there are no more than 446 ahadith from Abu Hurairah in Bukhari and the rest are just repetitions. This is equally the same for the other books of hadith. Also we cannot simply add up the number of ahadith of Abu Hurairah in different books of hadith to get the total figure. Again many of these ahadith are repeated across books of hadith. For instance according to a count by Al-Dhahabi, in Syar Alam Annobala, if we count the ahadith from Abu Hurairah in the book of Muslim (ignoring the repeated ones), we will find that only 98 of them are different from those narrated in Bukhari. It is therefore possible to conclude that the total number of narrations from Abu Hurairah in Sahihayn (ignoring the repeated ones) is no more than about 544 hadith (446 + 98). I however do appreciate that comparing to the other companions' ahadith narrated by Abu Hurairah are significantly more.

(Copyright, brother Abdullah Rahim)

[Dreamer]

loool Oh my days.... If I dont accept it as truth... U STILL DO... so u have 2 defend it! Im showing u the inconsistancies in Bukhari! Inconsistancies which according u ppl who accept it as 100% truth shldnt be there!

[Dreamer]

LOL, If I was a shi'a, I would fill in an application on your name to a mental house , come on, he is asking you something.

- If you want to convince us, you at least need to speak the truth, (if sahih bukhari is a lie), then why are you convincing us with a lie? And even that you can't prove.

- An addition.


If one counts the number of ahadith narrated in Bukhari from Abu Hurairah, one will come up with a figure more than 1000. This however does not mean that Bukhari has narrated 1000 different ahadith from Abu Hurairah. Many of the ahadith in hadith books are repeated often with minor differences in the context. According to Ibn Hajar, in Fat'h Al-Bari, there are no more than 446 ahadith from Abu Hurairah in Bukhari and the rest are just repetitions. This is equally the same for the other books of hadith. Also we cannot simply add up the number of ahadith of Abu Hurairah in different books of hadith to get the total figure. Again many of these ahadith are repeated across books of hadith. For instance according to a count by Al-Dhahabi, in Syar Alam Annobala, if we count the ahadith from Abu Hurairah in the book of Muslim (ignoring the repeated ones), we will find that only 98 of them are different from those narrated in Bukhari. It is therefore possible to conclude that the total number of narrations from Abu Hurairah in Sahihayn (ignoring the repeated ones) is no more than about 544 hadith (446 + 98). I however do appreciate that comparing to the other companions' ahadith narrated by Abu Hurairah are significantly more.

(Copyright, brother Abdullah Rahim)

Im using Bukhari because u accept it not me.... Ur sources speak against u... Im pointing them out 2 u !

now defend them!