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  • #91
    Al Wala' Wal Bara' (Love and Hate for Allah's Sake) like now days we see these nationalist dont have this in them. They dont mind if a person worship cow ,Essa alehi salam or worship (Asfand yar wali khan) for them all are same .. i m not sure weither to laugh or cry when i see people like these talking about Islam.The only thing nationalist know is dance,drink,zina ... like you see Bilor natinalist party leader most of the cinema in peshawar are his . They forbid the good and enjoin the forbidden. They imitate the disbelievers and choose them as their friends and trustees. They mock believers who oppose the ways of the disbelievers and hypocrites. They help to deviate people from the Path of Allah and His Messenger (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam). They have left jihad for the pleasures and pursuits of the material world. They have abandoned Shariah and adopted Jahiliyyah. These people have strayed from the Straight Path and they have turned away from al wala wal bara, and as a result, have fallen into the trap of Shaytaan.

    One of the aspects of iman is al wala wal baraloving and hating for the sake of Allah Alone. It is one of the most important beliefs of Islam after Tawheed. Allah says in His Book:

    Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoever does this has no connection with Allah unless you are guarding yourselves against them as a precaution. Allah bids you to beware of Himself. And to Allah is the journeying. (Surat Ali Imran 3:28)

    The reason why al wala wal bara is so important in Islam is because, if it is taken into practice, it can remove all the characteristics of Jahiliyyah from the Muslim Ummah, it guarantees the preservation of the Ummah, and it distinguishes the believer from the disbeliever. When one loves and hates for Allahs sake only, they are raised degrees higher than those who love, hate, and act based on their own desires or fake gods or for other meaningless things. Allah states in His Speech:

    Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the friends of Shaytaan. Surely, Shaytaans strategy is always weak. (Suratun-Nisaa 4:76)

    This verse is speaking of al wala wal bara. Those who have iman and belief and act upon al wala wal bara fight for Allahs cause and do battle with His enemies to preserve His Deen, while those who disbelieve fight for gods that dont even exist. Allah commands:

    And fight them until persecution is no more and religion is for Allah. (Suratul Baqarah 2:193)

    Only the people who love and hate for the sake of Allah will act upon this command. These are the people that understand the meaning of al wala wal bara, which will be discussed below, Insha Allah.

    The Prophet (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam) said: The strongest bond of faith is loyalty for the sake of Allah and opposition for His sake; love for the sake of Allah and enmity for His sake.

    But what does this love and enmity exactly mean? Loving for the sake of Allah means to love Allah and to show loyalty to Him by following His Shariah. It means to love all that is good and permissible in the Quran and Sunnah. This type of love requires one to defend Allahs deen and to preserve it. It is to love those who are obedient to Allah and to defend and assist them. These are the party of Allah. Enmity for the sake of Allah signifies showing anger towards those who oppose Allah, His Messenger (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam), His deen, and the believers. It is to struggle and fight against them in order to uphold and spread the way of Allah and His Messenger (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam). There is a brilliant example of this in Ibrahim (alaiyhis-salaam), as narrated by Allah in the Quran:

    There is a good example for you in Ibrahim and those with him when they told their people: Surely, we disassociate ourselves from you and all that you worship beside Allah. We have done with you. And there has arisen between us and you enmity and hate forever until you believe in Allah Alone. (Suratul Mumtahanah 60:4)

    Al wala wal bara requires one to ally oneself with Allah, His Messenger (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam), and the believers wherever they are found against the disbelievers even if it is against their own relatives. We see this in the example of the Prophet (sallallahu alaiyhi wa sallam), who fought against his own relatives and his own clan, all for the sake of Allah.

    Al wala wal bara aims to purify the society and rid the people of all vices. For example, we are required to oppose the way of the disbelievers. One of their habits is wasting their time in pursuing their own material desires. A Muslim who does not act upon al wala wal bara will imitate this habit and therefore become neglectful of his duties to Allah. This will lead to a corrupt person, who will end up raising a corrupt family, which will corrupt the community in whole.

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    • #92
      ONE THING MORE I WANT TO ADD IS NATIONALISM IS NOT THE WAY FORWARD..
      One thing more that Nationalism the biggest cancer now days...on which putkhon Muslims would not unite. nationalism is closely linked with secularism. One of the basic principles of nationalism is a rejection of religious bonds and an acceptance of a secularist order. Nationalism leads directly to secularism. The belief that national unity must be based on a common land, race or language, necessitates that religion be kept apart from politics. Thus, secularism paves the way for the domination of nationalism, since according to this school of thought, religion and nationalism cannot rule at the same time in the same realm
      Secularism is the twin brother of nationalism and it changes the meaning of minorities. In a government founded on religion, the followers of other creeds and schools are regarded as minorities, but with nationalism and secularism, there are only racial, political and regional minorities. Nationalism claims that religious beliefs prevent national unity and religious minorities feel themselves alienated. The only proper basis is geographical, racial or lingual nationality. The main duty of everyone is the patriotic duty, and religious duty is subordinate to it, and confined to personal belief. The patriotic duty of everyone is to sacrifice everything, even religion, for the nation and country and serve and fight for them.
      Patriotism and nationalism are two perfectly different concepts, the distinction between which is sometimes not understood.
      Patriotism is a natural and instinctive human feeling, whereas nationalism is not a sentiment, but an ideology. The former is sentimental, whereas the latter is a pseudo-creed on which the instinct and sentiment are based.
      The school of nationalism is built upon two animal instincts of man which he has in common with other creatures, namely the 'group instinct' and the 'love of home'. Nationalism begins with these two instincts, eventually ending in a pseudo-religion which causes these relatively innocent sentiments to become dangerously fanatical.
      Why should man base unity on faith, not on territory and blood?

      So far it has become clear that a unity based on land and blood is related to man's animal instinct which he shares with some animals, and not because of his distinctive characteristics which make him of a superior animal.

      But should land and blood be man's only basis of unity, or is there some other factors? To answer this question, it would first be necessary to understand man's peculiar nature.

      According to the Quran, man is an animal endowed with a divine (i.e. beyond animal) spirit. Consequently, there are two inherent tendencies or inclinations which characterize man's nature: an animal tendency which makes him similar to other animals, and a human tendency which distinguishes him from them.

      The tendencies he has in common with other animals are his instincts. According to Freud and McDougal, instinct is a mysterious force which acts through bodily organs of all living creatures and makes them do things without awareness and thinking.

      In man, these instincts originate from his animal nature. They include desire for food, the sexual urge, fighting, attachment to land, blood, wealth etc. Of course, according to his superior nature, man's instincts from a biological viewpoint are weaker and more flexible than those of the animal and his acts and behaviors unlike those of animals, are not solely instinctive, but are motivated by other higher sources too.

      These superior inclinations are what distinguish man from the animal and make him superior to it. They are his intellect, intelligence, self-awareness and belief, faculties which are unique to him and also the desire for perfection, knowledge and the ideal.

      The motive force behind men's behavior in life are these higher inclinations which make him superior to and distinct from the animal. That is why we see that ideals, thought and reasonings which have risen higher in human beings than in animals, are so effective that they transform all instinctive needs. The similarities and differences between individuals and human societies do not directly originate from instincts, but from awareness, reasoning and reflection.

      We see here where the school of nationalism deviates and errs. It regards land and blood as the main controlling factors of man's behavior, and how the school of communism mistakenly considers the belly as the main factor and the Freudian school which regards the sexual factor as being the motive force behind man's behavior. Considering these, we can then understand the difference between these schools and the school of the prophets. The former schools stress on instincts which do not make man a superior animal and disregard man's higher qualities or undermine them.

      In the school of the prophets, the determining factor and criterion has nothing to do with territory, blood, food or sex; but it is rather man's belief, ideology and ideals which originate from his awareness, intellect and knowledge, which give him an exalted position among creatures and enable him to dominate the world. So long as he is bonded to such things as land and blood, he remains at the animal level, but once he steps higher towards belief and ideology, he attains the human level. Instinctive factors on which nationalism and other Western 'isms' rely are improper and futile since they degrade man to the animal level, and from a scientific viewpoint they are wrong since man's unique quality is his awareness, explaining his weak instincts. Human sacrifices all the way through history on grounds of conviction, show that a vision of life based on instinct is defective.

      Man is a human being, not an ass or a crow. He must adopt belief as the basis of unity and a determining factor of life and reject attachment to territory, race, gold, and force.
      That is why we reject nationalism, communism and all other futile 'isms' and turn to a divine school which is based on belief, a search for perfection and man's unique quality

      Nationalism, culminates in racism

      Nationalism inevitably ends in racism and racial prejudice. In any land where it attempts to base unity on the co-existence of a particular group so as to create fanaticism and make that group an independent, separate unit, it must attribute a certain name to that group like Iranian, Turk or some other name; it must brainwash those in that group into believing that they are superior to other on the basis of their race, blood etc. Without attention to the criteria of virtue, belief and action. Eventually, other neighboring countries come to manifest similar feelings, leading to perpetual clashes, rivalry and racial hostilities.

      History bears witness to the fact that nationalistic sentiments have always ended in racism. The Greeks at the height of their civilization called non-Greeks barbarians.
      Aristotle said:

      “It is nature's will that barbarians be the slaves of the Greeks.” The Jews who were a national unit before being a religious unit, regarded themselves as God's selected people. The Romans at the height of their civilization believed that there were only three nations on earth, the Romans, their confederates and the barbarians (non-Romans).

      Nationalism results in a desire to dominate and colonize seeking domination and colonization are due to three factors:

      1- Strong prejudice
      2- Superiority complex
      3- Self-interest (and disregard of others interests)

      Nationalism relies on all these three factors and that is why it eventually leads to domination and colonization. Nationalism has been the cause of clashes, aggressions, and constant rivalry between nations, causing much riot and bloodshed the world over.


      Unlike other religions such as Christianity, Buddhism etc, Islam is not confined to religious rites and metaphysical convictions. Had Islam been only a religion of devotions, it might have agreed with nationalism. But Islam is a religion with asocial and philosophical worldview, and provides for economic and political principles. Nationalism, too, has its own social and political principles based however on different beliefs and criteria. Therefore, conflict between Islam and nationalism is inevitable. The Islamic ideology is not compatible with any other ideology on the question of sovereignty over the private and social life of Muslims. A Muslim cannot at the same time be a Muslim and a polytheist, or a Muslim and communist. In Islam, there is no room for one to be a loyal and genuine nationalist. It is a question of identity, and one negates the other.

      Nationalism is incompatible with Islam, both schools having two opposite ideologies. These two assume two totally opposite poles in their spirit, essence, direction and goal
      Islam forbids Natioanalism ... Sura al Hujrat .
      "O Mankind, We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know each other. Verily the most honored of you in the sight of God is he who is the most righteous of you" (Quran 49:13). The Prophet Muhammad SAW said, as collected in the books of Abu Dawood:


      “He is not one of us who calls for ‘asabiyyah, (nationalism) or who fights for ‘asabiyyah or who dies for ‘asabiyyah.”


      Another rather scary Hadith on the matter is recorded in Mishkat al-Masabih, where the Prophet SAW says:


      “He who calls for ‘asabiyyah is as if he bit his father’s genitals” so the ummah of Rasoolullah alehi salam will unite on Quran and Sunnah nothing else .. loving your people caring about them is not bad but when you think they are better than any good practicing Muslim this is not alowed

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Ezatullah View Post
        Baygham ..........................
        We don’t care about puston unity what we care is muslim unity and if any pushton who is who is muslim would unite on Quran and Sunnah with us , The Most Exalted, says in His Holy book:......................................

        And yet again, thankyou, for openly stating the obvious.

        The islamists do not want pashtoon unity. They would like us to remain third class citizens of opressive regimes and dhimmis in other muslim states where the caliph is a punjabi or arab.

        Are muslim pashtoons living in saudia, given the same rights as saudis, are pashtoon muslims in UAE given the same rights, if not than why is unity of muslims being thrown at our faces so we can shed more pashtoon blood.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Baygham View Post
          And yet again, thankyou, for openly stating the obvious.

          The islamists do not want pashtoon unity. They would like us to remain third class citizens of opressive regimes and dhimmis in other muslim states where the caliph is a punjabi or arab.

          Are muslim pashtoons living in saudia, given the same rights as saudis, are pashtoon muslims in UAE given the same rights, if not than why is unity of muslims being thrown at our faces so we can shed more pashtoon blood.
          Baygham dont waste your breath on them.

          They will openly support Palestinian Nationalism because they themselves are slaves of Arabs.

          They will always oppose Pashtun Unity, kill their own Pashtuns and preach Arab Terrorism.

          These people mostly live in the west because I am sure their baba would slap them very hard in the face!

          You see, while these Islamist work so hard to make sure the kingdom of Arabs is rich,powerful and secure, they will kill their own Pashtuns to make sure the Pashtun nation is a slave of Arabs.

          You see mu vroara, these people are what makes Taliban, Islamist terrorists, Islamic movement of uzbekistan and ALqueda, they are all the same people.

          Have you ever seen ezatullah protest against Hamid gul,col iman and mullahs of Pakistan who made money on the blood of pashtuns?

          Never, have they ever protested against the suicide bombings on innocent pashtuns for afterlife of 72 virgins? never!

          Kind Regards

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          • #95
            misbehaved maseed, welcome back.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by Bigmo
              All this was before the availability of fiqh books to the public. Now these books are available to the masses for the first time. Its no longer with a bunch of Ulemas.

              Good luck but peace will NEVER come to Afghanistan with Sunnism or Shiasm. And this is why:

              http://www.pashtunforums.com/religio...-they-do-4973/
              Not a big fan of haadiths myself, but you are exaggerating that fiqh books werent available to the public. Rather if they were under the control of a certain group of people things would have been far more chaotic (in most cases they are). You are also wrong when you say that peace will never come to Afghanistan with Sunnism or Shiaism. It did, under the Taliban control, no matter how you put it. You may not agree with the way they did things but their period was the most peaceful in a very long time. They ruled 95% of the country. The other groups that opposed them did it out of ethnic reasons (Tajik and Uzbeks 95% Sunni, Hazara 95% Shia) rather fiqh or religious differences. The local Talibs were far more tolerant towards minorities and foreigners verses outsiders like the Arabs, Chechens, Uzbeks, Pakistanis etc. in some instances the local Talibs stood up for minorities including Shia, Hindus and protected the single Jew of Kabul from these outsiders. The local Talibs, or Afghan Talibs, knew that they had to govern their country. That these minorities are their responsibility. Naturally their religious and national leadership came first instead of catering the personal preferences of their foreign guests, most who were rejects of their own societies due to their extremist attitudes.

              Even with these religious books available to the masses, first majority of the Pukhtoons can't read. Second if they did and could, it is highly doubtable that the average individual will declare jihaad against a person from a different sect. It usually happens when a cleric unleashes a fatwa.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Jasmine
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                Welcome and amazing post.
                Menana.........

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
                  Menana.........
                  Very nice post, well written, I enjoyed reading it. I agree with your historical account, and the motives etc of the peaple.

                  You should remember that muslim pashtoons sided with sikhs against rivals in present khyber pakhtunkhwa, the cleansing of one tribe by another happened all the time, read the history of yousafzai, they being displaced from afghanistan, displaced other muslims/pashtoon, when mahmud first attacked the hindu king in present day swabi, pashtoons were on both sides.
                  Khushal fought for ages for the moguls against the yousafzai's and only later in life went against them for what ever reason.
                  In short these ancient groupings were possible because of the times and the limitations of small remote groups. An army of ahmed shah going though khyber is not shown on satellite TV with his interview and motives etc. Some advance maneovering of a few notables settles the alliance, and the promise of a loot is enough to gather whatever steam needs to be gathered.

                  Oppurtunists will utilize the common thread, not every one came with a mighty mongol army that needed little local assistance, even Alaxander married a local girl for alliance.

                  This has now all changed. Once in school I tried to get a peshawar map, I could not find any, they were considered secret, and to get caught with one even in the early 1990's would put you under suspicion. Now we have google maps, Growing up in peshawar, i did not even know that pashtoons lived in baluchistan and I had visited quetta a couple of times.

                  Previously if you want things done, you called a mullah, he found a suitable hadith and things worked out, nobody checked anythiing. Now the whole Quran and hadith is in searchable databases, for every one hadith that says this ten are found that say that.

                  I agree that Islam can still decieve the pashtoons , if not we wont be lamenting our state of affairs here, Most dont have access to searchable databases and those that do are either the ones decieving them or put in kafar category to make them useless. But things are changing. The religious hold is much much less in the last 6 years, this is more change than in the last 100 years.

                  And you are so right about persian nationalism via conversion to Shia in 1501. But dont turn a blind eye to wahabi islam and its inherent arab nationalism. the present day Turks have maintained an independent identity only after removing the arabic from islam in Turkey. We in pashtoon land need to do the same.
                  Last edited by Baygham; 08-26-2010, 11:03 PM.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Baygham View Post
                    Turks have maintained an independent identity only after removing the arabic from islam in Turkey. We in pashtoon land need to do the same.

                    Turkish identity without Islam and Arabic:


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                    • Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
                      Turkish identity without Islam and Arabic:

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                      should i upload a video of arabic porn to make a point here, they are not that hard to find.

                      By turkish identity i did not mean your like minded brethern, i meant control of resources and having an army with a spine.

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                      • Originally posted by Baygham View Post
                        should i upload a video of arabic porn to make a point here, they are not that hard to find.

                        By turkish identity i did not mean your like minded brethern, i meant control of resources and having an army with a spine.
                        Army with spine? :




                        Oh and please. You dont need to show us your knowledge of various types of porn. We take your word for it.
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                        • Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
                          Army with spine? :

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                          Oh and please. You dont need to show us your knowledge of various types of porn. We take your word for it.
                          I have been to istanbul, All I wished for during that trip was for one day, pashtunkhwa to have a city like that.

                          BTW if this mullah malice does not subside, I am myself thinking of contacting some Isrealis. To liberate Hijaz from wahabi sheetans.

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                          • Originally posted by Baygham View Post
                            I have been to istanbul, All I wished for during that trip was for one day, pashtunkhwa to have a city like that.

                            BTW if this mullah malice does not subside, I am myself thinking of contacting some Isrealis. To liberate Hijaz from wahabi sheetans.
                            You dont need to contact them over Hijaz.

                            THere are plenty of MOSSAD agents in Afghanistan teaching the Afghan government how to influence public opinion and work the media and spread propaganda online.

                            There might be even a Mossad agent here on PF representing the Afghan governments interests.
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                            • Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
                              You dont need to contact them over Hijaz.

                              THere are plenty of MOSSAD agents in Afghanistan teaching the Afghan government how to influence public opinion and work the media and spread propaganda online.

                              There might be even a Mossad agent here on PF representing the Afghan governments interests.
                              can u have them pm me, please. In dire need of some muscle.

                              BTW, dear sangar, very typical of you to take the conversation away from the topic, kindly stay away from useless rubbish, on my posts, I have no desire to shatter your arabized 2 cents/hr lifelink, for which you have sold your entire identity.
                              Last edited by Baygham; 08-27-2010, 07:17 AM.

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