Discussion of Ahmadi between Akbar Khan and MeemWawMeemNoon

[شمله ور خراساني]

LOL!

So typical. Somehow the Kuffaar always manage to lay the burden of proof upon us Muslims.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Have some fear of Allah.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I am just saying to show me the quote and I will explain the rest.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Have some fear of Allah.

I am not sure if I can understand what you are saying. Are you talking about Allah? Is that the one who according to Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani speaks in ENglish?

Or is it the one of whom the same Mirza Ghulam Ahmed claimed to have entered his body?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Sangar, you are too juvenile for this.

Leave this thread for me and akbarkhan, your ring-leader.

[malalay]

If I am wrong and my accusations are out of place, then here are the two pages to QUOTE #1, you tell me where they are:

The quote which akbarkhan has highlighted is in the last two lines of page 104 and first paragraph of 105..It says the same thing which has been quoted by him..

[akbarkhan]

Or that you could careless whether the quote is correct or not because you are a dishonest, manipulative, immoral and repulsive person.

You lied to everyone about your Qadiyaniat and said "who cares" when I nailed you down for it, and you now dare to call me dishonest?

Akbarkhan,
WHO CARES? Even if I was an Ahmadi 20 years ago, or 10 years ago or yesterday

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Now what has to be asked of akbarkhan is that why did he not quote relevant to the context?

I will post the whole context of what akbarkhan has quoted to show his manipulative and dishonest tactics.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

akbarkhan, please tell everyone why did you misquote out of context?

[akbarkhan]

Now what has to be asked of akbarkhan is that why did he not quote relevant to the context?

I will post the whole context of what akbarkhan has quoted to show his manipulative and dishonest tactics.

Kid,

Making your post bold and big doesn't mean anything!

Here is the paragraph from your Satanic book which I quoted earlier

God entered Mirza's body
"God entered my body ... and in this condition I was saying that WE WANT A NEW SYSTEM AND NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH. Thus initially I created Heaven and Earth in a condensed form in which there was no system or differentiation, then according to God's wish, I created a system and differentiation, and I was watching that I have the power to create this. Then I created the Asmaan-e-Duniya (Lowest Heaven) and said that 'We have beautified the world's heaven with lamps". Then I said that now we will create human from the extract of earth..." (Kitab-ul-Bariyah, Roohani Khazain vol. 13 p. 104-105)

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

akbarkhan, what is the context of what he has said?

Anyone who can read Urdu would know that Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) is referring to the love of Allah upon him.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

What Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) has said is no different than what is meant by in this hadith:

386. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Allah, the Exalted, has said: `I will declare war against him who treats with hostility a pious worshipper of Mine. And the most beloved thing with which My slave comes nearer to Me, is what I have enjoined upon him; and My slave keeps on coming closer to Me through performing Nawafil (voluntary prayers or doing extra deeds besides what is obligatory) until I love him, (so much so that) I become his hearing with which he hears, and his sight with which he sees, and his hand with which he strikes, and his leg with which he walks; and if he asks Me something, I will surely give him, and if he seeks My Protection (refuge), I will surely protect him". [Al-Bukhari]

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Only jahil would not understand what is meant by figurative language. Also, if you were to read the actual full text of what I have posted you would see that it is Allah Who has revealed upon Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) His Own love, thereafter, Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) is explaining the context of the expression of the love of Allah upon him.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Also, what akbarkhan has done is this:

He has simply quoted something out of context to illustrated how his own perverted mind seeks to mislead others.

If a Christian quotes the Quran and says that Allah has said Himself in the Quran that He has a son. What would you say? A Muslim would say: No, that is not possible. The Christian would then present this verse:

[2:116]‘Allah has taken to Himself a son.’

As per this quote. It means that Allah has a son and this means that the Christians are right.

But if one were to look closely and actually go through the trouble of quoting everything relevant one would come to terms that there is more to the quote:

[2:116] And they say, ‘Allah has taken to Himself a son.’ Holy is He! Nay, everything in the heavens and the earth belongs to Him. To Him are all obedient.

As you can see, the quote has been taken out of context. What Allah is saying here is: It is irrelevant what they are accusing Allah of for the everything is His. And if someone was to look further in the Quran, Allah has mentioned that Hadhrat Isa (as) or Hadhrat Uzair (as) were not the physical sons of Allah. Allah has categorically denied fathering them.

That said, when a person is manipulative, dishonest, immoral, repulsive, he would be able to fool the laymen. However, he can't fool those who know the context of a quote.

Shame on you, akbarkhan.