Can you be Pashtun & be an Atheist?

[Damir9000]

Can you be Pashtun & be an Atheist?
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I would also like to know Muslim-Pashtuns' opionion on Atheist-Pashtuns.

Pashtuns did exist before Islam.

[HalloIsBack]

Can you be Pashtun & be an Atheist?
&
I would also like to know Muslim-Pashtuns' opionion on Atheist-Pashtuns.

Pashtuns did exist before Islam.

yes you can!
the one is religion and another one is ethnic group
you can change your religion
but from point view of hardcore religious people you cant
your ethnic group you cant change

[Damir9000]

yes you can!
the one is religion and another one is ethnic group
you can change your religion
but from point view of hardcore religious people you cant
your ethnic group you cant change

I know that.
But I read that one of the tenants of pashtunwali says that you have to be a muslim.

[HalloIsBack]

I know that.
But I read that one of the tenants of pashtunwali says that you have to be a muslim.

was pashtunwali put down on paper?
NO!

you was already pashtun before islam came

some of users consider me as pashtana hahahahaha

[Damir9000]

was pashtunwali put down on paper?
NO!

you was already pashtun before islam came

some of users consider me as pashtana hahahahaha

Pashtunwali is like unwritten rule that everybody follows.

But will other pashtuns reconize & recognize an Atheist-Pashtun as a pashtun?

Also, did Islam influence Pashtunwali?

[HalloIsBack]

Pashtunwali is like unwritten rule that everybody follows.

But will other pashtuns reconize & recognize an Atheist-Pashtun as a pashtun?

Also, did Islam influence Pashtunwali?

well i consider you as pashtun!
do you have identity crisis?

yes and in every village pashtunwali is not the same


well yes the arab-islam influenced pashtunwali and the result are taliban

do you really think that all pashtuns in pashtun area are muslims? o.O hahahahahaha

[Damir9000]

No I don't have any identity issue.
I am aware that pashtuns aren't always practicing Islam.

But I would like to know other pashtuns' opinion on it.

On a side note, I always figured you as a guy lol

[Damir9000]

I also would like to know;
How important is Islam to pashtuns?

[marwat]

why is that people who just take religion on a very light note or those who just don't want to associate themselves with religion consider themselves atheist?
is that what atheist is called? people having the attitude of don't care consider it literally fashionable to tag them with atheist. moran people
atheist are those who lost their soul plus religion. isn't Atheism a belief system too?

there was a great leftist pashtun scholar and giant literature figure Qalandar Mohmand who was a Qadyani. he is remembered with great zeal due to his struggle for leftist pashtun struggle and pashto literature. Qadyani are the most hated people in pakistani and are regularly prosecuted, now if a Qadyani can coexist in a conservative pashtun society an atheist can too.
PDPA, parchami and khalq were officialy atheist.

[Damir9000]

why is that people who just take religion on a very light note or those who just don't want to associate themselves with religion consider themselves atheist?
is that what atheist is called? people having the attitude of don't care consider it literally fashionable to tag them with atheist. moran people
atheist are those who lost their soul plus religion. isn't Atheism a belief system too?

No, Atheism is simply a lack in belief of God. It is not a belief system.
Anybody who doesn't believe in God or Gods, is an atheist.
Atheist do adopt other philosophies.

Lost their soul?

[Admin Khan]

Depends on how you define a Pashtun. What's your definition of a Pashtun?

The great Ghani Khan once said:

"Pashtun is not merely a race but, in fact, a state of mind; there is a Pashtun lying inside every man, who at times wakes up and overpowers him."

[Damir9000]

How would you consider pre-islamic pashtuns?

People usually associate Pashtun's great victories with Islam.
But Alexander struggled with pre-islamic pashtuns.
Alot of great remarks about Pashtun people come from that time.

Is pashtun resilience really because of Islam?

[khushal]

There is no documented Pre Islamic source that mentions Pashtuns which explains why Islamic beliefs is a tenant of Pashtunwali.

[Damir9000]

There is no documented Pre Islamic source that mentions Pashtuns which explains why Islamic beliefs is a tenant of Pashtunwali.

Do believe Alexander was fighting some other people?

Alexander wrote a letter to his mother:

While in fight with pakhtuns in arachosia (now kandahar) and said, I am involved in the land of leonine (lion-like) and brave people, where every foot of the ground is like a well of steel, confronting my soldiers. You have brought only one son into the world but everyone in this land can be called an Alexander.

“May God keep you away from the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger, and the revenge of the Afghans.”
– Alexander the Great.


My family is from Logar.

[Damir9000]

I never met or heard of an afghan who actually practices pure Islam.
They mostly practice their own version of it.