Can you be Pashtun & be an Atheist?

[Damir9000]

You know I have to hand it to you. You're quite adept at obfuscating debates with Red Herrings & Strawman Fallacies.

too bad I'm perceptive and can catch you doing them.

This is no strawman or red herring.

I know because I am from a muslim family and I have talked to & hanged around other muslims.
This what they think.
Satan helps the europeans, jews, americans, etc... oppress muslims.

[Damir9000]

Well if you're doing a red herring then it's a red herring I make no apologies for calling you out on logical fallacies.

You accuse others of being pseudo intellectual but you use logical fallacies to support your arguments. That's rich.

So you do know him?
Because your style is like his.
When you write stuff, you remind of him.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

So you do know him?
Because your style is like his.
When you write stuff, you remind of him.

Yes I am secretly this guy ....you found me out.

Now run with it.

[Damir9000]

This is what I asked you



What you've stated here is about the existence of rivalries in Muslim societies. This is not a demonstration that they'd have "killed each other" .....implying that the Europeans saved the Muslim world from self annihilation. In fact if you think about Modern Iraq and Syria. ISIS grew as a consequence of U.S. intervention in Iraq. So that would clearly be the case contrary to what you suggest.

Either you're very duplicitous about how your phrase things or you don't know how to phrase things properly.

Nice Bait and Switch tactic though.

Are you saying that Muslims, if left alone (from foreign intervention & colonialism)
, would have lived in peace with each other?

[Brown Skinned Savage]

This is no strawman or red herring.

I know because I am from a muslim family and I have talked to & hanged around other muslims.
This what they think.
Satan helps the europeans, jews, americans, etc... oppress muslims.

Yes this is a strawman, me suggesting that in response to your claims regarding Japan, that Current Global climate was largely forged by Imperialism.

Is NOT Tantamount to claiming that Every problem in the Muslim world is because of Non-Muslims

Those two are not logically equivalent concepts, and since I nomially identify as Muslim, your suggestion that it is a monolithic Muslim opinion is Therefore STRAW-MAN.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Are you saying that Muslims, if left alone (from foreign intervention & colonialism)
, would have lived in peace with each other?

Again Strawman Argument!!

No I'm not saying that, But what I am saying that European intervention did not prevent it, on the contrary it exacerbated it.

If European intervention was absent it'd probably have remained some type of stalemate like what was happening between the Qajars and the Ottomans.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

it's you who is spinning round

Proof?

[Damir9000]

Again Strawman Argument!!

No I'm not saying that, But what I am saying that European intervention did not prevent it, on the contrary it exacerbated it.

If European intervention was absent it'd probably have remained some type of stalemate like what was happening between the Qajars and the Ottomans.

Calm down dude.

I was just asking a question.

[HalloIsBack]

Proof?

just read the entire thread!
i guess you like discussing with people on of because you cannot do it in real life!
i feel sorry for you!

[Damir9000]

It's actually quite tiresome to remember exactly what you said previously.
I don't spend my whole day on PF.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

just read the entire thread!
i guess you like discussing with people on of because you cannot do it in real life!
i feel sorry for you!

You're just dancing around the necessity to validate your claim. which means you can't actually demonstrate what you suggest.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

It's actually quite tiresome to remember exactly what you said previously.
I don't spend my whole day on PF.

Anyone that takes two minutes to read can do it.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Calm down dude.

I was just asking a question.

I'm calm, just calling you out.

[HalloIsBack]

It's actually quite tiresome to remember exactly what you said previously.
I don't spend my whole day on PF.

you have a real life? o.O

[HalloIsBack]

You're just dancing around the necessity to validate your claim. which means you can't actually demonstrate what you suggest.

i demonstrated it already
its not my fault
ohhh wait it is my fault that you dont get it like it s a fault of kafirs that your country is ****ed up!