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  • why is everyone asking the same question over and over again?

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    • ^i can quote a thousand posts answering the same question and members asking the same questions...

      "so why are ahmadis considered non-muslim"... this has been asked about 100 times throughout the topic... everyone has answered and yet no one has answered... everyone comes and asks the same question again...

      for the 100000000000000000000 time... ahmadis are considered kafir because they say Mirza ghulam was a prophet that received revelations from Allah swt and he is/was the messiah and Mahdi that muslim ummah is still waiting for... and any muslim that rejects Mirza ghulam's prophecy is kafir...

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      • Dear sister, how much of the Quran do you follow? Please be honest.

        Just because their beliefs don't conform to yours it does not make them wrong. Their beliefs do conform to the Holy Quran.
        Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

        [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

        [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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        • Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
          Dear sister, how much of the Quran do you follow? Please be honest.

          Just because their beliefs don't conform to yours it does not make them wrong. Their beliefs do conform to the Holy Quran.
          dear brother... i am sure when it comes to religion u are not perfect either. no one is. but we all quest for perfection in religion. but some concepts of Islam is the base of Islam and for one to be a muslim one has to believe in them. one of them is the finality of our Prophet Mohammad PBUH.

          All the ahmadis have left this topic... dont u find it ironic and amusing that you, someone who doesn't call himself ahmadi is still here debating with everyone and trying to justify ahmadi beliefs.

          there is no ground for discussion unless you come clean with everyone here. you can't be a non-ahmadi and a supporter of ahmadi beliefs at the same time... its just simple as that.

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          • talk about going around in circles.

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            • Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View Post
              dear brother... i am sure when it comes to religion u are not perfect either. no one is. but we all quest for perfection in religion. but some concepts of Islam is the base of Islam and for one to be a muslim one has to believe in them. one of them is the finality of our Prophet Mohammad PBUH.

              All the ahmadis have left this topic... dont u find it ironic and amusing that you, someone who doesn't call himself ahmadi is still here debating with everyone and trying to justify ahmadi beliefs.

              there is no ground for discussion unless you come clean with everyone here. you can't be a non-ahmadi and a supporter of ahmadi beliefs at the same time... its just simple as that.
              Dear sister,

              The reason why I asked you this question is because you reject fundamentals of Islam. You have admitted it all over these forums. So, please think before you speak. Have fear of Allah. I don't you think you have a good grasp of the Holy Quran, as far as your posts are concerned.

              Their beliefs do not go against the Quran, that is why I am so inclined.

              Continuation of prophethood:

              [7:35] O children of Adam! if Messengers come to you from among yourselves, rehearsing My Signs unto you, then whoso shall fear God and do good deeds, on them shall come no fear nor shall they grieve.

              Hadhrat Isa (as) has passed away:


              [3:144] And Muhammad is only a Messenger. Verily, all Messengers have passed away before him. If then he die or be slain, will you turn back on your heels? And he who turns back on his heels shall not harm Allah at all. And Allah will certainly reward the grateful.
              Last edited by MeemWawMeemNoon; 07-12-2010, 08:52 PM.
              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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              • Originally posted by shlombay
                MeemWawMeemNoon, can you show me where their beleifs match the Quran as far as the Mehdi concern goes.
                Dearest and sweetest and kindest brother,

                do you know why our beloved Prophet (saw) gave the Imam Mahdi the title of Imam Mahdi?
                Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                • ^nice try!

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                  • Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View Post
                    ^nice try!
                    This is really sad. Not only do you object to other Quranic injunctions, that has nothing to do with Ahmadis, but when someone is presenting a Quranic verse you are arrogantly saying "nice try!"

                    I am trying to respond to you in a humanely manner and in a way where I might not incur the displeasure of Allah. Yet, you are mocking at a Quranic verse. No wonder you have so many objections to the Holy Quran--you don't care what it says. You only love what your thoughts reveal to you.

                    It is up to you to take or reject what the Quran is saying, but for Allah's sake have some fear. At least the others don't say anything mockingly when Quranic verses are being shown.
                    Last edited by MeemWawMeemNoon; 07-12-2010, 10:07 PM.
                    Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                    [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                    [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                    • Originally posted by Afghanprincess
                      MWMN why did they give that title?

                      And Salamalikum, I hope we can learn.

                      Did you know that every single prophet of Allah was called an Imam Mahdi as per the Quran.
                      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                      • MeemWaw, I think i remember you back from AF. You disappeared from there.

                        Nice seeing you again.

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                        • Originally posted by Sabrina
                          Is there going to be another Messiah after Mirza Ghulam?
                          Mirza Ghulam is not the Messiah.

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                          • Originally posted by Sabrina
                            Is there going to be another Messiah after Mirza Ghulam?
                            As per the Islamic understanding we are only awaiting one Messiah.
                            Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                            [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                            [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                            • Originally posted by Jamaludeen View Post
                              Mirza Ghulam is not the Messiah.
                              To you it might not be, but to millions of people it is.
                              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                              • Do Ahmadis follow all hadiths?

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