Why are Ahmadis considered non-Muslims in Pakistan

[asifsyal]

Ahmadis Are the True Muslims Today

its not just pakistan, its worldwide... they dont accept finality of prophethood. their founder made heinous slurs against the Virgin Mary etc ( PS my best friend is ahmedi so Im not anti ahmedi) but they aint muslim

Brother, you say that you have an Ahmadi Friend and then you are sure they are not Muslims, and you say the reason is that:
1. they do not believe in the Finality of Prophet hood,

I am an Ahmadi so let me tell you; DO WE BELIEVE IN THE FINALITY OF THE PROPHET HOOD OR NOT?, you may be misguided by the claim of the Promised Messiah Alaihesalam that he declared himself as a prophet for this time,

So I let my brother know that the Holy prophet peace be on him has said that the Reformer that is to come in the Latter Days would be prophet, it is quoted four times in Sahih Muslim, and the thing is that you other Muslims other than Ahmadi Muslims are waiting for Jesus Christ peace be on him, IS HE NOT A PROPHET?? OR THE PROPHET HOOD WILL BE TAKEN BACK FROM HIM?? AND HE WON'T DESERVE IT ANYMORE?? If you are saying that he will be descended as a prophet, in this case he will be the last prophet not our Beloved Holy Prophet peace be on him. So please try to understand our believes and only then talk about our believes,

2. The second thing is that you have said that "their founder made heinous slurs against the Virgin Mary etc..." Could you please put that forward so that every body could see that?? However I make one thing clear over here, that what ever Hazrat Masih Mawood alaihe salam has said about Jesus and His mother is all what was originally written in the Bible, and He only had to quote it to explain it to the Christians that the Man that you call him a Son of God is described in the bible like this; for example the bible says that he got his hairs oiled by a bad women, so just to quote this to the Christians that do you believe a man like this to be your God??

Once again I tell you that fear Allah and do not say what ever you listen from any Mulla, unless you do not read it yourself in our literature,
Thank you

[Dreamer]

Christ was invested with prophethood before Muhammad (PBUH) when he returns he will act as a ruler not as a prophet... your mirza what ever was a drug addict who was horny 2 marry his cousin made some mumbo jumbo prophecies none of which came true and died on a toilet.... I mean the idea that pashtuns are semeitic shld tell u that he was high half the time loooooool

[Dreamer]

and yes my friend is ahmedi... we studied medicine together but i dnt probe in2 my friends religious lives... that is their concern

[asifsyal]

they say mirza is a prophet after him...

I am an Ahmadi, no Ahmadi ever says that Hazrat Mirza Sahib alehesalam is a prophet AFTER Him, but we say that Hazrat Mirza Sahib is a prophet in his Ummat, these are two different things, only if you understand my point then you will no more go against us..

[asifsyal]

Christ was invested with prophethood before Muhammad (PBUH) when he returns he will act as a ruler not as a prophet... your mirza what ever was a drug addict who was horny 2 marry his cousin made some mumbo jumbo prophecies none of which came true and died on a toilet.... I mean the idea that pashtuns are semeitic shld tell u that he was high half the time loooooool

I really regret to talk to a fool like you, you seem to be a Mulla or some thing like Mulla, you just do not have the basic manners how to talk in a public place, but even then I have to answer to your idiot idea for the last time,

When you say that Jesus will return and he will be no more a prophet but only a ruler, what proofs do you have regarding this?? or you just say it as you are addicted to say all that being a Molvi, so you do not have any proof, in the context where the Holy prophet Muhammad peace be on him saying that Jesus will return He calls him Nabiullah FOUR times, then how can you dare say that he won't be acting as prophet??
and to say that he was invested with prophet hood before the advent of the Holy prophet peace be on him is a sever attack on Allah Almighty, Was not Allah swt able to invest another person with prophet hood in the Umma? why did he need an old prophet?
it is more like a person goes to the doctor and the doctor prevents him to eat rice, and the next day the the doctor asks him did you eat rice? He says yes I did but not fresh rice, I ate the rice that we cooked yesterday,
Now if prophet hood is prohibited in any sense then how Jesus can return??
Obviously he has passed away, the Man who was to come has already come and now we are to adhere to him and to devote our lives to him,
as far what you have said about Hazrat Mirza Sahib alaihe salam, it is so sad that you just say what ever you want to, you do not know whom he was, I know that you are going to write more silly and rude words, I won't enjoy talking to you, so bye

[Dreamer]

he died on a toilet... good riddence...

[Dreamer]

no new prophet at all will come... sorry no go

[Dreamer]

the reason Christ is the messiah because he is the one destined to rule the world... he has been annointed hence the term messiah as the kings of ancient Israel were... what did mirza rule other than some drugs den

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

the reason Christ is the messiah because he is the one destined to rule the world... he has been annointed hence the term messiah as the kings of ancient Israel were... what did mirza rule other than some drugs den

Dreamer, you can be my Messiah any time of day......

[Admin Khan]

Drop the personal attacks and stay on topic, Please.

[Dreamer]

in the words of mirza
The Almighty God has told me that I should send a marriage proposal to the elder daughter of a Ahmad Baig; he has also ordered you to accept me as your first son in law and derive light from my knowledge and wisdom. Furthermore, I am to inform you that I have been granted the permission to execute the deed of the land you are interested in and bestow upon you additional land and other favors, provided you wed your daughter to me. This is the only treaty between you and I. So, if you accept, I will accept this too. If you do not accept, then God has ordered me to warn you that — in case the girl is married to someone else — it will not be auspicious for you or her"

irshad.org. (a) Aaiana-e-Kamalat-e-Islam Dar Khazain, Vol. 5, P. #572, (b) Tableeg-e-Resalat, Vol. 1, P. 61 — Collection of Posters-102, Vol. 1 — Hashia; February 20, 1886, (c) Aaina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam Dar Roohani Khazain, P. 325/57

[Dreamer]

she lived to a ripe old age with many children... lol so much for your founders claims

[Dreamer]

I am not against ahmedis just against the statement that they are muslims.... I view them as I view Bahais... exception being that Bahais say that they are not muslims these people say they are

[Dreamer]

Years and years ago, another marriage was claimed to be divinely ordered, set-up and blessed....

this is a debate amongst muslims and those claiming 2 be muslims... concern yourself with socialisim friend

[Dreamer]

How do you describe the term Muslim?

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