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Ive never read that hell is forever for anyone. Since the punishment is finite, then isnt the sin itself finite.Originally posted by badmash_khel View PostRejecting the prophethood of Mohammad (saw) in this life time because one was born a hindu. Didn't change religion but believed in God and was a good person. Isn't such a person distined for hell forever according islamic scholars?
But one born a hindu, is that person not regarded as a jahil because he/she is not aware.
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i take it that you won't be voting for mitt romney, then.Originally posted by R3SISTANC3 View PostChristianity is a vile cult of White male worshipers. It is not a religion but a scam which appeals to blackmailing innocent people with the story of some anglo/saxon homosexual scarifying for their sins while at the same time happens to be the very "god" that these people need saving from...wtf????
The most retarded faith on the planet, period.
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Romney or Obama, both are turds belonging to the one and the same toilet = corporate interests.Originally posted by faye View Posti take it that you won't be voting for mitt romney, then.
Romney is a Mormon, and in Mormonism he can actually achieve godhood. White men in Mormonism can actually become godlike or gods themselves. For a long time they didn't allow Blacks but ever since they joined politics they have been trying to be politically correct. I'm surprised tho how the vast majority of of Republi****s allowed a Mormon the nomination. I guess religious differences can take a side step when united in bigotry against the closet Muslim Marxist non-American Hussein Obama.
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Originally posted by R3SISTANC3 View PostRomney or Obama, both are turds belonging to the one and the same toilet = corporate interests.
Romney is a Mormon, and in Mormonism he can actually achieve godhood. White men in Mormonism can actually become godlike or gods themselves. For a long time they didn't allow Blacks but ever since they joined politics they have been trying to be politically correct. I'm surprised tho how the vast majority of of Republi****s allowed a Mormon the nomination. I guess religious differences can take a side step when united in bigotry against the closet Muslim Marxist non-American Hussein Obama.
you would like this disc
[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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Racetraitor - Dar Al-Harb - YouTube
White rain falls across the walls of new jerusalem...to the ashes of disbelief...cry your filthy lie...venomous embodiment of wrath and hate...the star burns bright scorching the land clear for repopulation....repopulation..*.swallows whole...your zion crushes whole...caging every life for the devil's prize...country gutted out...nailed through the foot...christened in power...the beast's power....the beast's power[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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You are right. Zurvanism became dominant religion in Persia under Yazdegerd II.Originally posted by Arevapasht View PostDidn'T Zurvanism develop a bit later?
As I know it developed as a sect in Zartushtism
Zurvan per se in Persian tradition is regarded as the beginnings, infinite time an infinite space. Zurvan was the father of everything who ceded power to his two fighting sons - Ormuzd (Ahura Mazda) and Aryman (Angra Mainju).دلته دم او قدم دواړه په حساب دي - پل په لاره غلط مه ږده بې حسابه
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No that's the spin doctoring of people in the 21st century. I doubt that's the narrative of the 1st century AD
It was a human sacrifice just like all the polytheistic religions of ancient times promoted[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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Originally posted by khushal View PostIve never read that hell is forever for anyone. Since the punishment is finite, then isnt the sin itself finite.
Nay, those who seek gain in evil, and are girt round by their sins,- they are companions of the Fire: Therein shall they abide (For ever).
Surah Al-Baqarah Ayah 81 - بلى من كسب سيئة واحاطت به خطيئته فاولئك اصحاب النار هم فيها خالدون
The above ayah indicates that hell if for ever.
If this is incorrect according to islamic views then can somebody plz clarify the matter.
A jahil is a person who is unaware of God but a hindu is not necessarily a jahil since hindus have their own conception of God.But one born a hindu, is that person not regarded as a jahil because he/she is not aware.
What I am saying is that will a pious, believing hindu be thrown in hell because he worshipped God in his own way rather than the way muslims worship him? From my undrestanding the mullahs say he is still a kafir and be thrown in hell because he didn't accept the prophethood of Mohammad (saw). Now is it that person's fault that he was born in a hindu family and found his way to God through hinduism?
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A man who has not heared from the last Messenger of Allah and his Message,he/she will not face guilty charges on the day of judgment inshaAllah.
It is part of the justice of Allaah that He does not punish any people until He has first sent a warning to them and unless there is evidence against them. Allaah does not treat anybody unfairly. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).” [al-Israa’ 17:15].
In his tafseer (commentary) on this aayah, Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “These words, ‘…And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning)’ tell us of the justice of Allaah, may He be exalted, and that He does not punish anyone until after He has established evidence against him by sending a Messenger to him. This is like the aayat (interpretation of the meaning): ‘… Every time a group is cast therein [into Hell], its keeper will ask, “Did no warner come to you?” They will say, “Yes indeed; a warner did come to us, but we belied him and said: ‘Allaah never sent down anything (of revelation), you are only in great error.’”’ [al-Mulk 67:8] and: ‘And those who disbelieved will be driven to Hell in groups, till, when they reach it, the gates thereof will be opened (suddenly like a prison at the arrival of its prisoners). And its keepers will say, “Did not the Messengers come to you from yourselves, - reciting to you the Verses of your Lord, and warning you of the Meeting of this Day of yours?” They will say: “Yes, but the Word of torment has been justified against the disbelievers!”’ [al-Zumar 39:71]…”High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.
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