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  • #46
    "Ar-Ruqa, At-Tama'im and At-Tiwalah are all acts of Shirk (polytheism)," (Musnad Ahmad; Abu Dawud)


    At-Tama'im is the act of putting an amulet around the necks of children to save them from the effects of evil eye! If the amulet contains the verses of the Qur'an or Allah's Names or Attributes then it is allowed by some ancestors and disallowed by some. Ibn Mas'ud (May Allah be pleased with him) was among those who disapproved it.

    Ar-Ruqa or Al-Aza'im is the act of reciting incantations, charm etc. Those are allowed in which there is no trace of Shirk (polytheism), Prophet Muhammad (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) has permitted it in case of being bitten by poisonous insects or disturbed under the effect of an evil eye, At-Tiwalah (bewitchment) is something done by those who claim they can cause a woman to be more beloved by her husband or vice-versa.


    Uqbah ibn Aamir reported that when a group of ten men came to the Prophet (PBUH) he only accepted the oath of allegiance from nine. They asked, “O Messenger of Allah, why did you take the covenant from nine of us and refuse this man?” The Prophet (PBUH) answered, “Verily he has a talisman on him.” The man then put his hand in his clock, pulled out the talisman and broke it. When the Prophet (PBUH) finished taking the oath from him he turned and said; “Whoever wears a talisman has committed Shirk!”‘ (Collected by at-Tirmidhee and Ahmad).


    "Whoever uses, attaches or wears a talisman to himself, will have that talisman put in charge of him" (Ahmad & Trimidhi)


    Ahmad reported the tradition of Ruwaifi' (May Allah be pleased with him) who said that Allah's Messenger (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said to him:



    "O Ruwaifi', it may be that you will live a longer time after me, so inform people that whoever ties a knot in his beard, places any string or cord around the neck (as a charm), or cleans himself (after toilet) with animal dung or bone, then Muhammad (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) has disowned him (has nothing to do with him)."


    Sa'id bin Jubair said:

    "Whoever cut an amulet or talisman from anyone, it would be equal to liberating a slave."

    It was Waki', who recorded it and he reported from Ibrahim Nakh'i that they used to dislike every type of amulets and talismans whether that contained the verses of Qur'an or anything else, [They were the companions of Abdullah bin Mas'ud (May Allah be pleased with him).

    Source: Kitab At-Tauheed
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    • #47
      Originally posted by thelostone View Post
      Uqbah ibn Aamir reported that when a group of ten men came to the Prophet (PBUH) he only accepted the oath of allegiance from nine. They asked, “O Messenger of Allah, why did you take the covenant from nine of us and refuse this man?” The Prophet (PBUH) answered, “Verily he has a talisman on him.” The man then put his hand in his clock, pulled out the talisman and broke it. When the Prophet (PBUH) finished taking the oath from him he turned and said; “Whoever wears a talisman has committed Shirk!”‘ (Collected by at-Tirmidhee and Ahmad).
      The great Shafi`i imam and hadith master, Imam Ibn Hajar al-Haytami (ra), said this hadith refers to the pagan practice of wearing a bead and considering it an amulet. It has nothing to do with the wearing of ta`wiz. He said, after citing the hadith:
      It is obligatory to interpret the above as referring to what they used to do of hanging a bead on themselves and calling it an “amulet” (tamima), and the like, believing it would protect them from calamities. Without a doubt, to believe this is ignorance and misguidance, and one of the worst enormities, since if it is not associating others with Allah (shirk), it leads to it, for nothing can benefit or harm one, prevent or turn aside, except for Allah Most High (al-Zawajir `an iqtiraf al-kaba’ir (y49), 1.166). (Reliance of the Traveller. Bold mine.)
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      • #48
        bits of metal or stone or pieces of paper ( yes even those with quranic verses) can do nothing to bring good or bad or protect you.... put your trust and faith in the one who is closer to you than your jugular vein... The Lord God!
        Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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        • #49
          Originally posted by Mujib View Post
          The great Shafi`i imam and hadith master, Imam Ibn Hajar al-Haytami (ra), said this hadith refers to the pagan practice of wearing a bead and considering it an amulet. It has nothing to do with the wearing of ta`wiz. He said, after citing the hadith:
          It is obligatory to interpret the above as referring to what they used to do of hanging a bead on themselves and calling it an “amulet” (tamima), and the like, believing it would protect them from calamities. Without a doubt, to believe this is ignorance and misguidance, and one of the worst enormities, since if it is not associating others with Allah (shirk), it leads to it, for nothing can benefit or harm one, prevent or turn aside, except for Allah Most High (al-Zawajir `an iqtiraf al-kaba’ir (y49), 1.166). (Reliance of the Traveller. Bold mine.)
          Well, most muslims who use talismans, especially in Afghanistan & Pakistan use similar talismans as the ones worn by mushrikeen. So All this theory is fine. But look at the reality for a change.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by GoPashtunGo
            I know mullahs who have recommend Tawiz's. Does that mean they were wrong?
            No, they are not, brother. The vast majority of scholars consider it permissible to use ta`wiz. See the following answer:

            Using Ta'wizes (Amulets)
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            • #51
              how does a piece of paper have any impact on your life? can it bring you good or bad? No.... this is even if it has quranic inscriptions on it.... its plain wrong to put your faith in this... this is the first step 2 shirk
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              • #52
                a bit like the pagan idea of how the lesser gods acted as intermedieries between them and the great God.... whats the difference... we need no priests, we have 1 God who knows all that is, was and will be....
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                  a bit like the pagan idea of how the lesser gods acted as intermedieries between them and the great God.... whats the difference... we need no priests, we have 1 God who knows all that is, was and will be....
                  true!
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by heratigirl
                    I heard they have weird numbers in them that helps you. is this true?
                    Those numbers are the same codes ancient magicians in ancient Egypt during the times of Pharaoh's used to charm demons.

                    Via Jewish Kabbalah and interaction between Muslims and Jews, those ancient black magic practices have found their way into the taweez you can buy in Afghanistan.
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                    • #55
                      i think i might actually do a little investigation when i go to Kabul, i plane to visit a few of these tawiz gars and pirs to see what thy are about

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by abubaker View Post
                        i think i might actually do a little investigation when i go to Kabul, i plane to visit a few of these tawiz gars and pirs to see what thy are about
                        Don't tell them you are from kunarrh. And don't use the word "tawheed". Otherwise you will be in big trouble.

                        They are well prepared and if they smell anyone being suspicious of their shirk activity, they will kill you like the killed the great Salafi scholar from Kunarh years ago in a car bomb, or they will let the ocrrupt police lock you up in Bagram.

                        One famous taweez gar is actually a high profile staffer of NDS. He is a big fat guy who lives in Karte Parwan.
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                        • #57
                          didn't know that, what was the name of the scholar.

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                          • #58
                            I do not believe that we should even use amulets that have Quranic verses although some scholars are of the opinion that such amulets are allowed in Islam. The reason why is simple, why open the door to harm? When a taweez is given to a person they are told not to open it otherwise it will be evil, so with that in mind, is it not better to just seek protection by reciting the Quran? If you know of someone who is sick, then perform rukya on them, no? You walk a thin line when you go near actions of shirk... Be careful mates
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by abubaker View Post
                              didn't know that, what was the name of the scholar.
                              I use to have a document with his name on it. But I can't find it now.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                                how does a piece of paper have any impact on your life? can it bring you good or bad? No.... this is even if it has quranic inscriptions on it....
                                The same way words (air passed from the lungs) can have an impact and bring good or bad.

                                The very written words of the Qur'an Majid are blessed and a source of blessing. They are used for curing and protection. This is why they adorn masjids and homes all over the world. It is disrespectful to the Book of Allah to say that the words of the Qur'an have no impact and cannot bring good (na`udhubillah).

                                Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                                a bit like the pagan idea of how the lesser gods acted as intermedieries between them and the great God
                                How can the pagan idols of wood and stone be compared to the words of the Qur'an? Wal-`iyadhu billah.
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