Al Hanif's Shoutbox

[Punjabi]

The Muslims has just defended themselves against attackers.

We Just defend.

And when muslims invaded and Attacked hindus in India , and killed many sikhs because they didn't wanted to convert it was defensive ?
What about zoroastrians in Iran ? It was defensive ?
What about nuristanis, named " kafiristanis " and forced to convert ?
You really need to go out.

[tor_khan]

Atheists object religion because they are more moral than religious people who believe in cutting hands and killing people for having sex or killing people of different religion or sect.

Making sweeping statements about the said moral superiority of atheists is exactly what defeats the argument here. In fact, that ranks amongst the most ridiculous generalisations that I've read in ages.

When it comes to gross acts against humanity; whether you style yourself as religious or atheist; no-one is spared. One would hope that knowing either end of the spectrum can be complicit in harming humans would teach the braggarts either side a thing or two about humility.

[sunni]

I've mentioned them 'cause they're menioned in Soldat_Amir 's reply .
Check these two links :
English:
http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%...A8%D9%8A%D8%A9
Arabic:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi

i wouldnt like to TRUST anything from there bro.

you should know who call us wahabis and why.....you should know who are being called wahabis.

[sunni]

i didn't read any of the post's but i would like to know if Yasmeenaah sister would like to read the right books in aqeeda...etc

its for your own good sister, i hope you do like to read them books because i really care about the muslims....till you know everything you can say whatever you like.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

what a stupid thread

I am not a Muslim, but I dont care for insulting the faith of my ancestors and fellow Pakhtuns/Afghans.

I believe in freedom. People should have the choice to be whatever faith they want

I recognize alot of good in Islam. Theres a lot of beauty in Islam. But its not a perfect religion.

Muslims need to stop being arrogant and assuming that those who left the faith have deficiencies. No, like every other facet of human interaction, they simply have a different belief system

You like white meat, I like red. etc etc.

[sunni]

what a stupid thread

I am not a Muslim, but I dont care for insulting the faith of my ancestors and fellow Pakhtuns/Afghans.

I believe in freedom. People should have the choice to be whatever faith they want

I recognize alot of good in Islam. Theres a lot of beauty in Islam. But its not a perfect religion.

Muslims need to stop being arrogant and assuming that those who left the faith have deficiencies. No, like every other facet of human interaction, they simply have a different belief system

You like white meat, I like red. etc etc.

LOL you are arrogant tor makh.

you are shame to your own kakar's LOL
you kafir.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

LOL you are arrogant tor makh.

you are shame to your own kakar's LOL
you kafir.

If by tor you mean khaista then i concur

Kafir is not an insult to me, it is a badge of honour

[sunni]

If by tor you mean khaista then i concur

Kafir is not an insult to me, it is a badge of honour

visit us in afghanistan.
do you think the talibans don't know anything about you?

such a shame to your own parents.
do your parents know your kafir?

[PakistaniAtheist]

visit us in afghanistan.
do you think the talibans don't know anything about you?

such a shame to your own parents.
do your parents know your kafir?

Hi this is why I am atheist. If your religion needs fear to make people believe your religion is a cult of gangster robbers and thugs. Only in gangs you kill those who wants to leave. I wonder how it will look if kaffir nations started killing Muslims for being muslims. I think Muslims will disappear from the face of this planet with in 24hrs. A few hydrogen nukes will take care of you for good. Thank your Allah that kaffirs have a better sense of morality than you followers of magic sky god.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

visit us in afghanistan.
do you think the talibans don't know anything about you?

such a shame to your own parents.
do your parents know your kafir?

tell the taliban to come to toronto

[PakistaniAtheist]

Making sweeping statements about the said moral superiority of atheists is exactly what defeats the argument here. In fact, that ranks amongst the most ridiculous generalisations that I've read in ages.

When it comes to gross acts against humanity; whether you style yourself as religious or atheist; no-one is spared. One would hope that knowing either end of the spectrum can be complicit in harming humans would teach the braggarts either side a thing or two about humility.

Hi let us look at evidence to show who is morally superior

Atheist dont believe in making people atheist because they will enter paradise. Atheist believe in live and let live. Atheist dont believe in beheading other atheists for becoming theists. Atheists dont believe in cutting hands of theifs stoning to death or lashing consenting adults who are gay or having sex before marriage contract. Atheists dont believe in taxing people for having different beliefs from atheists. Atheists dont label theists as dhimmis and give them secondary status. Atheists dont believe that theists or others because of their beliefs can not hold certain positions in their nations governments. Atheists dont believe in not being touched by none atheists doctors or touching their corpses. Atheists dont stop others from preaching their religion. Atheists dont want to kill you for drawing atheists or criticizing atheists. Atheists like the challenge. Atheists believe in human rights at least most atheists i know. Of course there are atheists that might not hold all these views but certainly majority do. On other hand majority of muslims believe the opposite of what i stated because it is a part of their religion and if they dont then they are not actually properly practicing their true belief.

[PakistaniAtheist]

tell the taliban to come to toronto

Hi donkeys can not fly or swim so it is impossible. Poor people are too busy hiding from black magic sky dajjal drones created in hell by shaitaan. Allah said he controls sky but Allah wont destroy hundreds of spy satellite and drones to help the poor followers. To fight kaffirs they have to depend on kaffir technology created by dajjal system of black magic which is very ironic if you think. Too bad the quran and hadiths doesnt teach them anything useful like aero dynamics robotics computer engineering cyber intelligence. Muslims fighting dajjal using dajjal technology.

[faye]

That is truth as well but do not underestimate the danger of atheism. It should be dealt with very harshly to protect Islam and our cultures.

most of the wars have been to do with religions and material profit. tell me what the dangers are for muslims from atheism. most of the issues against muslims come from other religions and other muslims.

[Soldat_Amir]

If by tor you mean khaista then i concur

Kafir is not an insult to me, it is a badge of honour

Jar may sha Ghaznavi!

da doo nambar khalq ta ich "notice" ma ka wa, Pashtun toor aow speen dee, da "evil motive Troll" ta waya cheee zma toor makh day Pashtun Shaga(Soil) na Shavai yam!

[Soldat_Amir]

most of the wars have been to do with religions and material profit. tell me what the dangers are for muslims from atheism. most of the issues against muslims come from other religions and other muslims.

Faye

you ever heard of Sectarian violence in Atheism, as a matter of fact, intelligent Atheism in the modern era probably out number those of faith in science and technology.

Faye, these people have other motives, while others are too scared to speak out on the bad side of their faith.

Al Arab has another motive which is to use Islam to keep his former colonies intact for his future Arab super power.

Atheism, will provide a platform for Muslims to look for alternative ways of conducting themselves that does not include killing a Shia or a Sunni to make a Cleric pleased.

I hope i have not offended anyone, but this smear campaigin against Atheism is due to those who oppose them having no clear idea of how to debate them, maybe due to fear of being embarassed.

I have noticed on this forum, if you speak out on Religion, they will try to make you to say bad things about Islam, so when you do, they will satisfy themselves with the usual "the Juice has brainwashed him" "oh so typical, they want to destroy Islam" " look at this godless person, he insulted Islam, even though he may have reality and facts, but he has other motives which is to destroy my deen" I have heard them all, thats why I trend very careful.

The Muslim world is not the West, you can not have a open debate on Islam, if you upset anyone, you are most likely to be killed or beaten up, without police doing anything at all.

Hopefully, the Muslim world will reform for its own betterment, and start a enlightenment process, both intellectually and progressively.

When we see a modern and reformed Muslim world, Clerics will be booted out and the people and masses will progress on one platform.

A Progressive Muslim world would a benefit for Afghanistan and Pashtuns as a whole.