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  • Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
    To reiterate for the nth time...

    Strains of bacteria found even from 30,000 years ago have resistance to antibiotics.
    But only to antibiotics that are based on naturally occurring compounds that existed 30,000 years ago.

    Therefore the premise of your question is flawed!
    Actually, no, therefore, you are assuming that evolution only could have occurred over the last 30,000 years, and that is flawed.
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    "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

    "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

    أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
    (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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    • ozymandias you as a professor for 12 000 hundred different subjects along with SicimitaronxEdgetoHell , you could explain us how these living fossils survived without being changed.
      High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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      • Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
        ozymandias you as a professor for 12 000 hundred different subjects along with SicimitaronxEdgetoHell , you could explain us how these living fossils survived without being changed.
        Huh? I'm only a professor of one topic, and that is Computer Science. I don't think anyone can be a professor of even 10 topics, let alone 1200,000.

        What living fossils are you talking about? Could you restate your question? Between the unneeded insults and the translation difficulties, it is hard to understand you.
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        "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

        "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

        أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
        (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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        • Originally posted by ozymandias View Post
          Huh? I'm only a professor of one topic, and that is Computer Science. I don't think anyone can be a professor of even 10 topics, let alone 1200,000.

          What living fossils are you talking about? Could you restate your question? Between the unneeded insults and the translation difficulties, it is hard to understand you.

          check this thread : http://www.pashtunforums.com/science...e-again-22001/
          High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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          • Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post

            Oh, I see. You need that article translated? You clearly have not even read the article that you posted, because it is far from evidence against evolution.
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            "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

            "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

            أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
            (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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            • yes it is a big huge chocolate cake made of the **** the evolutionists did.

              go and tell your tales of evolutions to someone who is stupid enough to believe your theories.



              THREAD END / DISCUSSION IS NO MORE NEEDED.
              High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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              • Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                yes it is a big huge chocolate cake made of the **** the evolutionists did.
                I'm sorry, I do not understand what you think you are saying, other than you are trying to be offensive.


                go and tell your tales of evolutions to someone who is stupid enough to believe your theories.
                There is an interesting correlation between intelligence, and religious faith -- and it is contrary to what you seem to believe. Repeated studies have shown that the *less* religious a person or country is, the higher the average IQ. In fact, among the smartest people on the planet, evolution is almost universally accepted.



                THREAD END / DISCUSSION IS NO MORE NEEDED.
                That's not a sign of an open mind -- the unwillingness to discuss their belief, or look at the evidence. It's sad that you are so weak in your faith that you are afraid of discussing it -- and risking having to think about the evidence and the world you live in.

                It is interesting, though, that you are so willing to post information, misinterpret it, and then refuse to discuss it. Remember -- you asked *me* to comment on it.
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                "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

                "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

                أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
                (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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                • Originally posted by ozymandias View Post
                  It is interesting, though, that you are so willing to post information, misinterpret it, and then refuse to discuss it. Remember -- you asked *me* to comment on it.

                  The discussion was over when you accused alchemist of falsehood while you thought you are a scholar the same for you companion SicimitarXonEdge (to Hell)

                  It is a quote from the Bible:

                  Matthew 7:3

                  "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

                  Further i very welcome such discussions , but in such point its senseless to continue such baseless discussion its just waste of time.

                  you tried to be cool (like a nigga but sadly you are a paleface) with your comment so i recognized that you are just unwilling to accept some facts.



                  High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                  • Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                    The discussion was over when you accused alchemist of falsehood while you thought you are a scholar the same for you companion SicimitarXonEdge (to Hell)
                    I'm sorry, I still don't understand. Are you saying that since Alchemist is lying we should not have any further conversation?


                    It is a quote from the Bible:

                    Matthew 7:3

                    "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

                    Further i very welcome such discussions , but in such point its senseless to continue such baseless discussion its just waste of time.
                    I think that even if he refuses to admit it, he is learning something -- and he is doing a fantastic job of playing to fool. Many people are going to read his 'arguments' against evolution, and will see how flimsy they really are.


                    you tried to be cool (like a nigga but sadly you are a paleface) with your comment so i recognized that you are just unwilling to accept some facts.
                    What facts am I refusing to accept? I'm not sure, but you may be confusing 'repetition' or 'opinion' with 'facts'.


                    Bye, I guess.
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                    "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

                    "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

                    أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
                    (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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                    • For a man who has started at least 2 threads attempting to disprove evolution, he had surprisingly little to say about it...
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                      "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

                      "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

                      أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
                      (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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                      • It's amazing how he hates physical reality.

                        And then people like him stare at the "nookleeurr veppons" and wonder why others got them first. It's called science, man.

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                        • Originally posted by ozymandias View Post
                          But only to antibiotics that are based on naturally occurring compounds that existed 30,000 years ago.


                          Actually, no, therefore, you are assuming that evolution only could have occurred over the last 30,000 years, and that is flawed.
                          Like I said before, the beta-lactam ring is essentially the same ....synthetic anti biotics are based on natural occuring compounds.


                          There is no evidence that evolution occured...only the evidence that things haven't changed much over the last 30,000 years. There are over 300 different beta lactamase enzymes and only so many variants of the same compounds... small variations that are produced in morphology of existing alleles. Hence micro evolution.


                          Since you are only an expert on Computer Sciences, and do not have a biology background, you keep making ridiculous assertions with no basis. The onus has been on you to provide "Evidence"...but never have you done that. Shamelessly you keep throwing back at me empty rhetorical "projections" that lack any substance, only to inflate your own ego. You seem to think that as long as you respond, no matter the content, you are winning the debate.

                          But I have disproved you one too many times and you have you have played too stupid to comprehend it each time. You don't seem to realize that you have lost all merit in the eyes of everyone in this forum. Continue your parade....

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                          • Originally posted by sanman View Post
                            It's amazing how he hates physical reality.

                            And then people like him stare at the "nookleeurr veppons" and wonder why others got them first. It's called science, man.
                            What is that phrase mean?

                            "Physical reality"?


                            Do you have any idea what "physical" actually means?

                            Do you think that when you touch your keyboard, you are touching "physical reality"? In truth it is only your brain receiving signals from pressure sensors at the tip of your fingers that gives you the perception of "touch". At a sub atomic level the molecules of your fingers never "touch" the keyboard because of the electrical, like, magnetic forces. What you conceive of as "physical" has no "substance"! Atoms are 99.9999999% hallow!
                            So really, "physical reality" is only an illusion created by your mind! So when you are in a dream, and you feel "touch" again, it is your mind creating the illusion of "reality", in which you whole heartedly believe.

                            So really, what you are in love with is only illusions. What is physical reality? What is science? You can't even begin to fathom it. Can science tell you what comes after death? No? Then why do you suppose science can tell you what came before life?

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                            • Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
                              Like I said before, the beta-lactam ring is essentially the same ....synthetic anti biotics are based on natural occuring compounds.


                              There is no evidence that evolution occured...
                              You keep saying that, and keep ignoring the evidence shown to you. Why don't you try and disprove all the evidence showing you to be wrong?


                              only the evidence that things haven't changed much over the last 30,000 years. There are over 300 different beta lactamase enzymes and only so many variants of the same compounds... small variations that are produced in morphology of existing alleles. Hence micro evolution.


                              Since you are only an expert on Computer Sciences, and do not have a biology background, you keep making ridiculous assertions with no basis. The onus has been on you to provide "Evidence"
                              Actually, no. It is up to you to prove the entire scientific community wrong. You are the one making the assertion that the Theory of Evolution is wrong.

                              That said, we have provided evidence repeatedly, that you simple ignore. You don't even try to make an effort to provide counter-evidence, you simply state your opinion as if it is proof of something, and then call people names.


                              ...but never have you done that.
                              Actually, we have. For instance, you claimed speciation does not occur, and I provided you with a list of cases where it was observed.


                              Shamelessly you keep throwing back at me empty rhetorical "projections" that lack any substance, only to inflate your own ego. You seem to think that as long as you respond, no matter the content, you are winning the debate.
                              Speaking of projections, you are projecting again.



                              But I have disproved you one too many times
                              Zero is not 'one too many'. It is 'never'. You must disprove me at least once to claim you have done it 'one too many times'.


                              and you have you have played too stupid to comprehend it each time. You don't seem to realize that you have lost all merit in the eyes of everyone in this forum. Continue your parade....

                              Projections again! I cite evidence and refer to science, and you name call and attempt to call your opinions proof -- and I am the one that is stupid? Interesting.
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                              "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

                              "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

                              أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
                              (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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                              • Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
                                What is that phrase mean?

                                "Physical reality"?


                                Do you have any idea what "physical" actually means?

                                Do you think that when you touch your keyboard, you are touching "physical reality"? In truth it is only your brain receiving signals from pressure sensors at the tip of your fingers that gives you the perception of "touch". At a sub atomic level the molecules of your fingers never "touch" the keyboard because of the electrical, like, magnetic forces. What you conceive of as "physical" has no "substance"! Atoms are 99.9999999% hallow!
                                So really, "physical reality" is only an illusion created by your mind! So when you are in a dream, and you feel "touch" again, it is your mind creating the illusion of "reality", in which you whole heartedly believe.

                                So really, what you are in love with is only illusions. What is physical reality? What is science? You can't even begin to fathom it. Can science tell you what comes after death? No? Then why do you suppose science can tell you what came before life?
                                Way to stray from the topic at hand.
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                                "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

                                "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

                                أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
                                (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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