Why Evolutiontheory is just a theory and not an Evidence

[Alchemist]

My definition does not matter. Let's use a scientific one.

I gave you the scientific definition of a species ...but you are not accepting it.

so you give me what you think it is.



stop being so damn coy!

[ozymandias]

^ what some unknown poster said some obscure forum ...you've quote it here as evidence?

You are the only one claiming that a definition of a species is solely decided by the ability or lack of ability to interbreed.

How shallow?


Because on the same page, the next poster countered the above argument by posting a link to a bbc article where SCIENTISTS said that they did interbreed:

And the only person that hurts, is you.

So you refute the scientists? lol

Nope, that's your job, I guess. I agree with them.

you two are just pathetic!

Please stop with the personal insults. They are not needed.

[ozymandias]

I gave you the scientific definition of a species

Not in this thread.

...but you are not accepting it.

Let me know when you post it, then I can either accept, or not accept. Until you post it, you cannot claim I did not accept it. The only definition you posted has been 'a species is something that can breed with itself, but not other species'. I already provided a counter example -- horses and donkeys.

so you give me what you think it is.

Once again, what *I* think the definition is does not matter.

stop being so damn coy!

??

[ScimitarXEdge]

from same BBC article


this is what Quote Mining does to the intellectually incompetent like Alchemist

The results show that the genomes of non-Africans (from Europe, China and New Guinea) are closer to the Neanderthal sequence than are those from Africa.

The most likely explanation, say the researchers, is that there was limited mating, or "gene flow", between Neanderthals and the ancestors of present-day Eurasians.

This must have taken place just as people were leaving Africa, while they were still part of one pioneering population. This mixing could have taken place either in North Africa, the Levant or the Arabian Peninsula, say the researchers.

verifying that they had less viable offspring and couldn't effectively crossmate.

[Alchemist]

No, ****mitar. My foolish and ridiculously stupid friend.

If they didn't have viable offspring, then these researches wouldn't say that we carry neanderthal dna!

The title of the article should have made it clear to you: Neanderthal genes 'survive in us'

How do you think it "survived in us" ...if their offsprings, which is us, weren't viable?

Epic Scientific and Logic Fail!

Have some shame and decency.


You two are absolutely pathetic.

Ozy won't dare define what a species because, frankly, he doesn't know it himself.

And you...your just grasping for straws. You are both desperately trying to weasel your way out. Ego masturbating.

[ozymandias]

No, ****mitar. My foolish and ridiculously stupid friend.

If they didn't have viable offspring, then these researches wouldn't say that we carry neanderthal dna!

The title of the article should have made it clear to you: Neanderthal genes 'survive in us'

How do you think it "survived in us" ...if their offsprings, which is us, weren't viable?

Epic Scientific and Logic Fail!

Have some shame and decency.


You two are absolutely pathetic.

Ozy won't dare define what a species because, frankly, he doesn't know it himself.

And you...your just grasping for straws. You are both desperately trying to weasel your way out. Ego masturbating.

And more lies about me from you. Par for the course. Ask me politely, and I will gladly provide a scientific definition. I am not going to play your games and put up with your childish behavior, though. Do you think that you leave a good impression of your religion upon others when you behave like this?

[Alchemist]

what a drama queen..."ask me politely"...

If you knew it, you would have said it. But you are too afraid to admit your own ignorance.

What's so hard about defining what a species is?

You are so damn arrogant that you still won't accept that neanderthals and homo sapiens interbred! Despite the scientific evidence!

[ScimitarXEdge]

awwww Alchemist is getting infuriated because his argument is losing ground.

Anyways That's not necessarily true; because Species transistions aren't necessarily at some sharp demarcation point, but gradual.


If Neanderthals and Homo sapien sapiens could interbreed viable offspring, then we'd see more Neanderthal-Human breeding, they'd in fact interbreed 100% of the time, since they co-existed in the same areas and inhabited the same areas.

[Alchemist]

Wtf...shimitar..just stfu!

You are not god, so stop telling people what happened as if you were there.

For all you know...it was taboo! They were different races! They had their own language - Fact. They had their own culture - FACT.
The differences that existed between neanderthals and homo sapians, or even homo erectus or habilus is not more than the differences between the current races of people on earth today!

[ScimitarXEdge]

grasping for straws? I'm using the EXACT SAME ARTICLE you cited from; don't scapegoat that much Alchemist

just as you said to Ozymandias ....you're not refuting science now are you?

[ScimitarXEdge]

now look who's being a drama queen? LOL

[Alchemist]

bitch plz...

[ozymandias]

what a drama queen..."ask me politely"...

If you knew it, you would have said it. But you are too afraid to admit your own ignorance.

What's so hard about defining what a species is?

You are so damn arrogant that you still won't accept that neanderthals and homo sapiens interbred! Despite the scientific evidence!

I will state this calmly and clearly -- I accepted that fact for several years prior to my first posting on this board. You are only pretending that I am disagreeing with you. Neanderthals and humans interbreed. This is heavily supported by the evidence. I am not sure why you insist on pretending I do not agree with this.

[Alchemist]

Great!


See ****mitar, Ozy accepts the fact that neanderthals and humans interbred. So why don't you be a good boy and accept it to? And you too lewanay.

Now it's obvious and clear that neanderthals, homo habilus and homo erectus were just different races of people.
Hence, there is no "missing link" between prime apes and us.

Evolutionary theory is just a tautological truisms and historical narratives of how creatures came to be. There is no scientific backing for it ...and can't be.

[ozymandias]

Wtf...shimitar..just stfu!

You are not god, so stop telling people what happened as if you were there.

For all you know...it was taboo! They were different races! They had their own language - Fact.

Actually, that is an opinion, as there is very little evidence to support this claim either way. There is no reason to believe they did not have a common language of some sort -- simply because we know next to nothing of their spoken language, other than the fact we believe they had one.

They had their own culture - FACT.

Again, more opinion than fact. All we know about them is based on a few products and materials that they created that survived to this day. It is very possible that they had very similar cultures -- or at least as similar as any 2 tribes at that point in history.

The differences that existed between neanderthals and homo sapians, or even homo erectus or habilus is not more than the differences between the current races of people on earth today!

Actually, that's not true at all. Skeletal remains prove that to be a lie.