2 Million Ethnic Muslims Convert From Islam To Russian Orthodox Christianity

[Toramana]

no it hasn't the only reason we're living in secular societies is because same secular societies have used different schemes and interferrences to push us out of our natural habitat and on top of that has corrupted and altered the global habitat on the whole.

so if anything secularism is in at least a significant factor in why we face the problem we face today...if not the root cause

Right now the global habitat and natural environment are experiencing unprecedented pressure from the swarming populations in the Middle East and other Muslim and under-developed lands...the disragard for the preservation of nature and environment is appaling.

[ScimitarXEdge]

It is in effect in Saudi Arabia. So you go back to SA or Yimin to bring Islamic principle into your life and I saty in the blessed land of North America.

What you call inferiority complex is being objective and rational. What you propose is actually indication of inferiority complex---unable to cope with the reality then seek refuge in the glory of the past.

You've used that argument before and I knew you'd predictably use that argument again but .....most Islamists reject Saudi Arabia as a puppet state

Your false dichotomies only demonstrate how weak the case for secularism actually is.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Right now the global habitat and natural environment are experiencing unprecedented pressure from the swarming populations in the Middle East and other Muslim and under-developed lands...the disragard for the preservation of nature and environment is appaling.

actuallly population growth rarely has any measurable impact on environmental cycles, the Ecosystem Naturally makes a homeostasis with organisms. what does impact is ratio of resource expenditure. The Primary footprint against the Natural Environment comes from Western Nations and this footprint is created by destabilizing global habitats in the bid for hegemony; which was the motive for for immigration to the west.

this is what even Western scientists have confirmed.

[Toramana]

I think what this thread has proven is how gullible and easily brainwashed Toramana is and how desperately and to great lengths he'll go to validate his brainwashing.

not only that but he lives in a False Dichotomy that if we dont have secularism we'll have Mullah Omar.....as if the great Islamic Powers of the Abbasids were anything like Mullah Omar. ....Toramana's been brainwashed by people hostile to his heritage and identity on how to view and understand his heritage. Uncle Tom house negro syndrome at its worst

I know sand-negros don't have the capacity to learn or to see the other side of the reality---the national humuliation has turned almost every Arab into a psychpath insanely pointing to others how great they were in the past not having the mental capacity to understand that it is time to go ahead.

[faye]

but don't forget that the western countries already did a lot of their environmental destruction and still doing it, in their own lands and those that that they invaded. now they are telling developing countries that they can't do that.

[ScimitarXEdge]

It's not that peoples of the middle east doesn't have the capacity to learn; but they're just not gullible enough to believe that learning means adopting logicall fallacious constructs as models of progress.....that can only happen through brainwashing.

what you're doing is basically the equivalent of a madman telling us that we should base society on the standards of Harry Potter. And hence reflect mental subservience to residues of Imperial institutions. Afer all you're a product of Pakistani education; that white man inferiority issues were indoctrinated in you from a young age.

[star123]

but don't forget that the western countries already did a lot of their environmental destruction and still doing it, in their own lands and those that that they invaded. now they are telling developing countries that they can't do that.

i think its a good idea.

[star123]

It's not that peoples of the middle east doesn't have the capacity to learn; but they're just not gullible enough to believe that learning means adopting logicall fallacious constructs as models of progress.....that can only happen through brainwashing.

what you're doing is basically the equivalent of a madman telling us that we should base society on the standards of Harry Potter. And hence reflect mental subservience to residues of Imperial institutions. Afer all you're a product of Pakistani education; that white man inferiority issues were indoctrinated in you from a young age.

middle eastern people are obsessed with white people, their inferiority complexes are far more obvious than those of africans or asians. just stick a blonde in front of an arab....you get my meaning

[Toramana]

but don't forget that the western countries already did a lot of their environmental destruction and still doing it, in their own lands and those that that they invaded. now they are telling developing countries that they can't do that.

At least they have realzed and scientifically studied the phenomenon...and are sensitive and conserate of it...who will make these morons understand...mullah tells them...God will take care of it...and take from nature as ruthlessly as you can...and reproduce as much as you can...so billions of new puppies and the ecological imbalace.

I have seen the destruction of nature first hand in my home district...the degree of deforstration etc. sadens me....but Allah will compensate...Mullah Says.

[ScimitarXEdge]

if you stick women in front of men of any variety they'll want to mate; that's how Biology works, males want to spread and expand their gene pool. I doubt it has anything to do with "blonds'

But you'll rarely see people of the middle east try to whiten their skin, or worried about being dark or perceived as dark; those are the marking of inferiority complexes and these ....are things endemic to a Pakistani upbringing. But I guess Tajik Nationalists in Afghanistan also adopted such anxieties because they're heavily influenced by Indo-culture via movies and music.

[faye]

toramana, they are in some case and not in others. bp is wanting to do deep ocean mining in the south of australia where whales breed and other mining ventures are going on that are definitely not environmentally friendly. gm crops another example. the use of depleted uranium has already infected the whole planet and they are still using it and claiming it is harmless!

[star123]

if you stick women in front of men of any variety they'll want to mate; that's how Biology works, males want to spread and expand their gene pool. I doubt it has anything to do with "blonds'

But you'll rarely see people of the middle east try to whiten their skin, or worried about being dark or perceived as dark; those are the marking of inferiority complexes and these ....are things endemic to a Pakistani upbringing. But I guess Tajik Nationalists in Afghanistan also adopted such anxieties because they're heavily influenced by Indo-culture via movies and music.

haha are you kidding me, khiliji arabs are so desperate to be white its actually embarrasing, the others lebanon/egypt are so adamant that they are actually white...but thats until they visit europe and are called a dark swarthy arab...the dent in their ego is tragic to see.

'Tajik' are white.

[ScimitarXEdge]

At least they have realzed and scientifically studied the phenomenon...and are sensitive and conserate of it...who will make these morons understand...mullah tells them...God will take care of it...and take from nature as ruthlessly as you can...and reproduce as much as you can...so billions of new puppies and the ecological imbalace.

I have seen the destruction of nature first hand in my home district...the degree of deforstration etc. sadens me....but Allah will compensate...Mullah Says.

If they were sensitive or considerate about it they wouldn't have created such global imbalances in the first place It's the fruits of secularism.

On the contrary.....No learned Muslim would make the such a statement that you're describe. people follow the prophetic orders.

The Prophet (sala Allahu ‘Alihi wa Salaam ) said, "If an individual has an opportunity to plant a tree, even if he knows the Day of Judgment is imminent, let him plant the tree."

so by just sheer force of knowledge, we know you're fabricating lies to serve your agenda.

[ScimitarXEdge]

haha are you kidding me, khiliji arabs are so desperate to be white its actually embarrasing, the others lebanon/egypt are so adamant that they are actually white...but thats until they visit europe and are called a dark swarthy arab...the dent in their ego is tragic to see.

'Tajik' are white.

I have never seen or heard of a khaliji or any other arab trying to be white.

and Lebanese are usually naturally fair skinned. Egyptians also never heard of it...if you can show that the overwhelming majority of Egyptians or Khalijis want to be White, then I'll retract the statement


Tajiks are of many varities, white , dark some look asian some look Arabic. It's really hard to decide what a Tajik is.

But I'm not referring to Tajiks on the whole just Taik NATIONALISTS; they want so bad to be Europeanized. They're more mentally enslaved to Farangayan then even Toramana.


let's be honest, would you consider Massoud's brother Ahmad Zia Massoud "white" he looks more Pakistani than Musharraf. NOt that there is anything bad about that, God made everyone as he chose to make them

[Toramana]

middle eastern people are obsessed with white people, their inferiority complexes are far more obvious than those of africans or asians. just stick a blonde in front of an arab....you get my meaning

Exactly, I went with my friend to what it is called babby sitting place or something run by the city. We sat there for a while and meanwhile an Arab woman arrived with her child. She was like a mobile cosmetic shop having blonded her hair. It seemed very ludicrous and gawdy. Her son was overzealosly active and noisy and in a short time turned many thing upside down beating other kids as well. The woman was very emabarrassed. She spoted us and asked us where we are from. Then she told us her son is a typical Arab stuborn and insensitive to other people comfort level'.

I have noticed two types of Arabs; zealots like Osama, Ikhwanul-Muslimin, this SE, etc. And herodians like the woman I mentioned above. Both categories have this intense feelings of national humuliation and inferiority complex and cannot keep the balance. And when they adopt, they adopt only the outwardly things and not the core of the ideas and values that would bring effective transformation. Or seek refuge in the past.