2 Million Ethnic Muslims Convert From Islam To Russian Orthodox Christianity

[faye]

i think poorer countries are under pressure to keep up with the west and they are desroying their native habitats because of this. it is particularly sad for the rainforests and it's inhabitants because in the long run, protecting them would be more valuable to them, in more ways than one.
what about the destruction by western mining companies, that get free reign in underdeveloped countries? they are doing lots of environmental damage and getting away with it.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Toramana is this like how you were saying the Mullah was telling people to cut down trees and other manufactured stories you invent? LOL

One way I know your stories are forgeries is because you always have people making ethnic references in them as if that's all what's on peoples minds when they go out.....you're in essence projecting your own ethnic self consciousness and anxieties and personifying them with characters in your stories.

[ScimitarXEdge]

i think poorer countries are under pressure to keep up with the west and they are desroying their native habitats because of this. it is particularly sad for the rainforests and it's inhabitants because in the long run, protecting them would be more valuable to them, in the long run, in more ways than one.
what about the destruction by western mining companies, that get free reign in underdeveloped countries? they are doing lots of environmental damage and getting away with it.

exactly, environmental destruction in Asia and Africa is direct consequence of Imperialistic Capitalist Industry using peoples poverty as a springboard to exploit their land.

There's actually a book about this called




He talks about how Afghanistan has almost zero narco trafficking before the 80's but when the CIA intervented and used Narcotrafficking to help finance AID to the Afghans it expanded and Afghans were forced to engage in narcotrafficking to have usble commodities to purchase things with

There's another movie that details this called Zeitgeist it's all apart of the Neo-Imperial scheme. Make people dependent and then exploit them.

[Toramana]

toramana, they are in some case and not in others. bp is wanting to do deep ocean mining in the south of australia where whales breed and other mining ventures are going on that are definitely not environmentally friendly. gm crops another example. the use of depleted uranium has already infected the whole planet and they are still using it and claiming it is harmless!

faye, I agree...You and most of the Westerners generally are sensitive to the preservation of environment because you don't have any divinely appointed authority telling you God would compensate....You are driven by reason and you know the repurcussion of execessive exploitation of the nature...

In most of the Islamic thought, God is responsible to compensate and replinish and humans have no responsibility.

[ScimitarXEdge]

faye, I agree...You and most of the Westerners generally are sensitive to the preservation of environment because you don't have any divinely appointed authority telling you God would compensate....You are driven by reason and you know the repurcussion of execessive exploitation of the nature...

In most of the Islamic thought, God is responsible to compensate and replinish and humans have no responsibility.

That's a total lie;

even now in America; the largest industrial country in the world ; significant margins of people believe global warming is a hoax

Anthropogenic Global Warming - Fact or Hoax? An editorial by James A. Peden

[faye]

monsanto plans to control all the food in the world, according to a whistleblower on a doco i saw. the us got iraq to sign up to gm when they were in control.
afghanistan should to be very wary of who they let in for the mining and will have to keep control of what happens.

[Toramana]

That's a total lie;

even now in America; the largest industrial country in the world ; significant margins of people believe global warming is a hoax

Anthropogenic Global Warming - Fact or Hoax? An editorial by James A. Peden

That is why I used the word "generally".

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In most of the Islamic thought, God is responsible to compensate and replinish and humans have no responsibility.

also not true


Devote thyself single-mindedly to the Faith, and thus follow the nature designed by Allah, the nature according to which He has fashioned mankind. There is no altering the creation of Allah.
Qur’an 30:30

[ScimitarXEdge]

That is why I used the word "generally".

well generally must mean an overwhelming majority; the fact is people only a minority are willing to make the necessary concessions to reverse Environmental problems.

[Toramana]

It is too indignified talking of skin color etc. I am what I am. If some one accepts based on my ability and role in society ok, otherwise I don't need any body's recognition or acceptance. Go for ideas.

[ScimitarXEdge]

monsanto plans to control all the food in the world, according to a whistleblower on a doco i saw. the us got iraq to sign up to gm when they were in control.
afghanistan should to be very wary of who they let in for the mining and will have to keep control of what happens.

exactly ....American and European companies go all over the global environment and do ecological harm to maintain profits ..


Toramana is very uneducated so he doesnt actually do research to examine problems his goals are only to promote secularism.

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It is too indignified talking of skin color etc. I am what I am. If some one accepts based on my ability and role in society ok, otherwise I don't need any body's recognition or acceptance. Go for ideas.

and yet you're always making comments about dark skinned Indians and what not; even though the person you named yourself after is Indian, ironic eh?

[Toramana]

also not true


Devote thyself single-mindedly to the Faith, and thus follow the nature designed by Allah, the nature according to which He has fashioned mankind. There is no altering the creation of Allah.
Qur’an 30:30

Don't deceive...this is another kind of nature i.e. human nature...not physical nature....Probably, nature here means attitude and ways prescribed by Islam...again subjective definition...

[faye]

christianity gave man dominance over nature and i don't know that it has any environmentally firendly teachings. it was christian civilisations that did most of the damage, toramana.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Don't deceive...this is another kind of nature i.e. human nature...not physical nature....Probably, nature here means attitude and ways prescribed by Islam...again subjective definition...

This is about Nature in general ....that's why it says "the Nature that humans were fashioned in"

Islam is comprehensive ...furthermore supplemental information shows that it pertains to all aspects of nature.

Volume 3, Book 39, Number 513:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Allah's Apostle said, "There is none amongst the Muslims who plants a tree or sows seeds, and then a bird, or a person or an animal eats from it, but is regarded as a charitable gift for him.

The Prophet (sala Allahu ‘Alihi wa Salaam) said, "If an individual has an opportunity to plant a tree, even if he knows the Day of Judgment is imminent, let him plant the tree."

simply put,you're wrong.