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  • #46
    Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
    qatal is just a the infinitive.

    qaaf ta lam = to kill

    qaaf ta alif lam = to fight
    qatal its the same qaaf ta lam : lol the a i put is just 3alama . im sure u know it :P
    thats a verb .

    qaaf ta alif lam = to fight = qetaal
    thats right

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    • #47
      Listen to him

      YouTube - ‪Gentlemen Agreement with Secularism! Dr Israr Ahmad (English subtitle)‬‏

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      • #48
        Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
        But being poor does not mean that Islam is no good. This is what Amir al Murtad is implying.
        I like the sound of that. Whats the plural of Murtad though? Murtadoon?

        Scimitar youre response earlier reminds me of old time communists. "But, but what the Maoists/Castroists/Lenninists/Marxists/Communists was not REAL communism....."

        Shariah Law, in its PURETY and ENTIRETY, just like Communism, willl never be 100% effective and implementable. Hasnt been done since the time of the Prophet and never will be

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Amir al Ghaznavi View Post
          I like the sound of that. Whats the plural of Murtad though? Murtadoon?

          Scimitar youre response earlier reminds me of old time communists. "But, but what the Maoists/Castroists/Lenninists/Marxists/Communists was not REAL communism....."

          Shariah Law, in its PURETY and ENTIRETY, just like Communism, willl never be 100% effective and implementable. Hasnt been done since the time of the Prophet and never will be


          just because there's similarities in how things are argued doesn't make the point invalid; I think a thorough or at least more than superficial analysis of Shari'ah and it's dynamics should be addressed before you can disregard it.

          do you really think this cartel of Shaikhs who are merely going by a bunch of socicultural accretions from other Shayukh, actually signifies Islam?

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          • #50
            neither

            I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

            non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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            • #51
              secularism is easy, almost all states follow this ideology or lack or ideology or whatever u want to call it. its the lowest of the low, and non muslims certainly know how to reach into that part of themselves and be comfortable with it.

              shariah is hard. not hard for a muslim but hard to implement by a ruling body. since we are so divided today there will be differences among us as to what real shariah is, not to mention international pressure and all the **** that goes along with that.

              most of the islamic world is neck deep into secularism so transforming the societies into shariah instantly would be detrimental. we must follow allah and the prophets example by introducing/reintroducing islam slowly back into political/public life.

              but as they say, the best things in this life are not easy.
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

              Sayyid Qutb

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              • #52
                Shariah is disliked only by the anti social elements. Because it abandons their illegal business

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                • #53
                  i don't like law and religion combined.

                  I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                  non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                  • #54
                    Its the commandment of God. Our liking or disliking is not important.

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                    • #55
                      ^ i do not recall granting you the permission to think on my behalf. furthermore, i do not intend for this post to give out the impression of me attempting to pursue another one of those meaningless conversations you seem to be very fond of. good day to you sir.

                      I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                      non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                        neither
                        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                        i don't like law and religion combined.

                        So you don't want the church to interfere with the state and you don't want them to be seperate either?

                        ...So how does that work?
                        ---
                        To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
                        own inclinations and desires
                        .


                        -Imam al Ghazali

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                        • #57
                          it's not either or. there has to be more.

                          I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                          non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Amir al Ghaznavi View Post
                            I like the sound of that. Whats the plural of Murtad though? Murtadoon?
                            close Murtadeen, Murtadoon, is a dative form of Murtadeen

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                              neither
                              how about a hindu state?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                                how about a hindu state?
                                dilet bachis ekhtiyaar daree. Ta pohegey aw kaar d. Maa na sa la ijaaza akhley??

                                I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                                non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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