Who is a Muslim?

[faye]

hahaha...

I am not asking you because I don't know. I am asking you so my muslim brothers would read how the mind of kafirs work. (Logic. You don't have it.)


And my "occult powers" is nothing compared to the elites, who have already inoculated your mind and your people into total submission of their will. Now in your twilight years, you are a prey of nothing else but conjectures. And little by little you are realizing too little too late.

6:116 (Asad) Now if thou pay heed unto the majority of those [who live] on earth, they will but lead thee astray from the path of God: they follow but [other people's] conjectures, and they themselves do nothing but guess.


So faye,
These prophets have come to raise humanity's consciousness?
Do you even know what the word consciousness means, "sister"?
(I know you don't. But I am asking rhetorically. And if you want to know why don't you read the psychologist, William James' exposition on the subject )

The word prophet drives from the word, prophecy. So when you say there are prophets, linguistically you mean to say those who foretell the future. And what do the prophet's foretell? Or rather foreshadow? Judgment day? Are you ready for it faye? What was your purpose in life? Staying positive? Fighting negativity? For that matter, what is positive or negative but a taste of preference?

2:216 Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not.

so faye,


You say you...



16-64 = 48 years of studying eh?
I am 27 years old and it seems I know a lot more than you about "life, universe and everything". Don't you think?

Clearly you are confused faye...

your excuse is that you are happy with the system of belief that you have. But the reality of the fact is that your believes are not "systematic" since they are mostly founded on conjectures which in turn conform to the general consensus built by the elites. You are a typical New Ager - positive this, negative that..I feel this ..I feel that.. it's all about you eh? The Lord is suppose to submit to your will in this way. He has to make compromises for your sake and the greater lot of humanity who have chosen to pursue their own happiness. Yes... you are a westerner. We don't need to be psychic to tell that much.

now this was a rather melodramatic, self indulgent case of guesswork and assumptions, as per usual, dear.
i keep seeing that fool, with his nose stuck up in the air, on the edge of that precipice. you be very careful there, big egos have big falls

[maneatinglizard]

If a person rejects a core fundamental of Islam, then he is not a Muslim.

For example, a person says Salah is not obligatory. He is not a Muslim, because he has rejected a core fundamental aspect of the religion, which is the obligation of the Salah.

Another example, and person says a person after Rasulullah Salla Allahu Alayhi wa Salam is a prophet. That person leaves Islam, because he has rejected a core fundamental aspect of the religion, which is the finality of the Prophethood and Messengership of Rasulullah Sallah Allahu Alayhi wa Salam.

[IamDZJ]

[Alchemist]

now this was a rather melodramatic, self indulgent case of guesswork and assumptions, as per usual, dear.
i keep seeing that fool, with his nose stuck up in the air, on the edge of that precipice. you be very careful there, big egos have big falls

Look who is talking.

You are so childish faye.
tsk tsk tsk...

Your answer me like the way I use to get answers in the sand box when I was in Kindergarten: "I know you are but what am I". .."oo...ur gay..."
Are you really 64 years old?
Just playing a game of tag with me?
Or is it true that when people get old, the clock turns full circle, and they become child-like again?

You are a kafir. You don't accept Allah as your Lord or His Messenger. And this is by your own admission! What is "stuck up" and "self indulgent" about it?

[faye]

who is a muslim? he who doesn't be a 'bad boy'.

[ScimitarXEdge]

well dude, you are kind of rubbing it in her face. just saying.

[skhanlz]

you mentioned that, "Use this platform to unite with fellow Muslims--do not use this platform to cause disunity", we can only have unity based on principles, the principles our pious predecessors have set. How can you accept the shias who curse the companions or the ahmadis who do not believe in the finality of the prophet Mohammad(PBUH). We can never unite with such people.

[skhanlz]

The Shi’ah have many sects. Some of them are kaafirs who worship ‘Ali and call upon him, and they worship Faatimah, al-Husayn and others. Some of them say that Jibreel (peace be upon him) betrayed the trust and the Prophethood belonged to ‘Ali, not to Muhammad. There are also others among them, such as the Imamiyyah – the Raafidi Ithna ‘Ashari – who worship ‘Ali and say that their imams are better than the angels and Prophets.

There are many groups among them; some are kaafirs and some are not kaafirs. The mildest among them are those who say that ‘Ali was better than the three (Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan). The one who says this is not a kaafir but he is mistaken, because ‘Ali was the fourth, and Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan were better than him. If a person prefers him over them then he is erring and is going against the consensus of the Sahaabah, but he is not a kaafir.

But one thing is clear, someone who knows the status of Abu Bakar And Umar (may Allah be pleased with them) and still consider it his faith to curse them. I can not call such a person a muslim. They were the best after all the prophets. But if you realy want to know the true face of the shias, read their books. You can not rely on what the tell you because they practice taqiyya, which means to lie. Taqiyya is a fundamental faith of the shias. "Mix with them(i.e. non-shia) externally but oppose them internally." (Al-Kafi vol.9 p.116)

Not everyone who claims to be a Muslim can be accepted as such. If a person claims to be a Muslim, his claim should be examined. The one who worships Allaah alone and believes in His Messenger, and follows that which he brought, is a real Muslim. If a person claims to be a Muslim but he worships Faatimah or al-Badawi or al-‘Aydaroos or anyone else, then he is not a Muslim. We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound. Similarly, anyone who reviles the faith, or does not pray, even if he says that he is a Muslim, is not a Muslim. The same applies to anyone who mocks the faith or mocks the prayer or zakaah or fasting or Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), or who disbelieves in him, or says that he was ignorant or that he did not convey the message in full or convey the message clearly. All such people are kaafirs.

By the way, the majority of the scholars do not consider the shias as muslims. We have nothing personal against anyone, but when you weigh the evidence they are far away from the truth. May Allah guide us all and keep us in good Faith.

[skhanlz]

The Shi’ah have many sects. Some of them are kaafirs who worship ‘Ali and call upon him, and they worship Faatimah, al-Husayn and others. Some of them say that Jibreel (peace be upon him) betrayed the trust and the Prophethood belonged to ‘Ali, not to Muhammad. There are also others among them, such as the Imamiyyah – the Raafidi Ithna ‘Ashari – who worship ‘Ali and say that their imams are better than the angels and Prophets.

There are many groups among them; some are kaafirs and some are not kaafirs. The mildest among them are those who say that ‘Ali was better than the three (Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan). The one who says this is not a kaafir but he is mistaken, because ‘Ali was the fourth, and Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan were better than him. If a person prefers him over them then he is erring and is going against the consensus of the Sahaabah, but he is not a kaafir.

But one thing is clear, someone who knows the status of Abu Bakar And Umar (may Allah be pleased with them) and still consider it his faith to curse them. I can not call such a person a muslim. They were the best after all the prophets. But if you realy want to know the true face of the shias, read their books. You can not rely on what the tell you because they practice taqiyya, which means to lie. Taqiyya is a fundamental faith of the shias. "Mix with them(i.e. non-shia) externally but oppose them internally." (Al-Kafi vol.9 p.116)

Not everyone who claims to be a Muslim can be accepted as such. If a person claims to be a Muslim, his claim should be examined. The one who worships Allaah alone and believes in His Messenger, and follows that which he brought, is a real Muslim. If a person claims to be a Muslim but he worships Faatimah or al-Badawi or al-‘Aydaroos or anyone else, then he is not a Muslim. We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound. Similarly, anyone who reviles the faith, or does not pray, even if he says that he is a Muslim, is not a Muslim. The same applies to anyone who mocks the faith or mocks the prayer or zakaah or fasting or Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), or who disbelieves in him, or says that he was ignorant or that he did not convey the message in full or convey the message clearly. All such people are kaafirs.

By the way, the majority of the scholars do not consider the shias as muslims. We have nothing personal against anyone, but when you weigh the evidence they are far away from the truth. May Allah guide us all and keep us in good Faith.

[skhanlz]

This article is not supported by evidence and it is 100 percent contrary to what is written in the books of shias. This deen is protected by Allah and everything has daleel. Whatever i have said i can back it up 100% from the books of shias. This article just makes statments without proofs on th basis of dialogue among sunni-shias, but it is far from the truth.

[emkhan]

Shia hates Sahaba e kiram R.A and Ummahaat ul mumineen R.A

[skhanlz]

Misconception 9: Shias practice temporary marriages (mutah).

Response: Mutah (temporary marriages) was allowed during the time of Prophet Muhammad . Later on Caliph Umar prohibited it due to social reasons as the Islamic world was rapidly expanding. Shias discourage mutah but do not consider it prohibited. Some do abuse this.

This is a lie that Umar ( may Allah be pleased with him) prohibited mutah because mutah was banned at the time of the Prohet(peace be upon him). It was narrated from al-Rabee’ ibn Sabrah al-Juhani that his father told him that he was with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) who said, “O people, I used to allow you to engage in mut’ah marriages, but now Allaah has forbidden that until the Day of Resurrection, so whoever has any wives in a mut’ah marriage, he should let her go and do not take anything of the (money) you have given them.”
Narrated by Muslim, 1406.

[skhanlz]

All Imams are equal in rank and status to Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.w). (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 270)

[skhanlz]

Al kaafi is their most prominent book on hadith similar in rank to bukhari, according to the shias.

[skhanlz]

Sahabah (r.a) became infidel by denying the divine right (Wilayat) of Hazrat Ali. First three caliph and other Sahabas became infidel by denying the divine right of (Wilayat) of Hazrat Ali. (Asool Kaafi, Page No. 420)

After the said demised of the Prophet, all Sahabah turned apostate except four. (Israr-e-Muhammad, Page No. 43)

It is infidelity (Kufr) to doubt about the infidelity (Kufr) of Hazrat Umar. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Page No. 63)