Is the Burqa a Arab Pagan Dress?

[Lemar]

you are wrong,that is not burqa.
there is no such thing as burqa in AFG.
they dont even have this word.
that blue one is chadari

btw the abaya looks awsome

Burqa has Arabic origins while chadari is the local term for burqa!

[Laila]

i know
but have you every heard someone say "burqa dey wachawa khaar ta zoo"?
i mean atleast they need to use the proper word for it,or am i missing something here?

No you are right.....chadari is what people back home call it....people in the West use the western word for it, 'burqa.' so if i was back in Kabul or Laghman, we would call it chadari, and calling it burqa, no one would know what i would be referring to as.

[kakargirl]

In uk wrora i wear the burqa back home i wear the chadri in brlliant white, all our women do and we are very proud of it, in helmand and kandahar you will see different coloured chadri white light pink to yellow to biege light green and the blue .

[Laila]

Yeah chadaris come in different colors:

Black, blue, yellow, orange, green, white, and red. I saw all the colors there. In Laghman, women only wear either blue or white

But in Kabul some women are fashion-e so they like to wear the various colors of it......but i heard its more expensive

[Lemar]

no in kabul women dont wear it as kabul has mostly tajiks hazara uzbeks ect only a few pashtun familys that are there wear it,but helmand and kandahar ,espeacially the districk i come from is 95% pashtun so chadri are every where .

come one sis! Kabul has lots of Pashtuns not a few families!
I remember in civil war era and taliban era every women in Kabul wore burqa and the same was for all other provinces but its not the same now.
Pashtuns of Kabul dress the same as other residents, there is no difference.

[graveyardofempires]

khorey
kabul is full of chadaris and i guess chadari might actually have come form kabul itself and tajiks etc also wear chadari and yeah you are right about kabul being so called modernised but still chadari is the main thing for most women.

[Laila]

Yes, majority of women in Kabul wear it......go to the streets and you will see what i am talking about. In fact, majority of chadaris are made in Kabul City, there are many of their shops there.

Kakargirl, Kabul has mostly of 'everyone' not just Tajiks, etc. Chadari in fact has nothing to do with ones ethnicity. During Taliban, not just Pashtun women wore it, Hazaras, Aimaqs, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Sikh Afghans even wore it. Till today, i have seen majority of Farsizubans wear it too.

[Laila]

wrora its not new kabul you wont see any of this only the pashtun women are wearing it , rest of kabul now you will see girls in jeans weatern clothing very common thing since the taliban went and usa came i get daily reports to what has changed shops are full of latest fashion of of western clothing.

Thats not completely true.

Okay, it is true that many women in Kabul City have started to wear Western Clothes....but it is pretty modest western clothing. They dont wear tight jeans, they wear long, covered tops over, and they wear scarf with them.....thats because in Kabul women are going to work, going to university, and such.

But to say that about Kabul, not true! Yes, you will see countless, many women in Kabul wearing chadaris.....girls, women, elder women, still wear it.

Like I said, chadari has not only been for Pashtun women, others wear it too.

[graveyardofempires]

wrora its not new kabul you wont see any of this only the pashtun women are wearing it , rest of kabul now you will see girls in jeans weatern clothing very common thing since the taliban went and usa came i get daily reports to what has changed shops are full of latest fashion of of western clothing.

khorey
its not just pashtun farsiwaan cuz there are plenty of pukthane who wear jeans etc in kabul and there are plenty of farsiwaan women who wear chadari.
so its not realy so much pukhtun only thing but yes majority pukhtane would wear it and i remember from back in the days that majority farsiwaan women would wear them.

[Lemar]

wrora its not new kabul you wont see any of this only the pashtun women are wearing it , rest of kabul now you will see girls in jeans weatern clothing very common thing since the taliban went and usa came i get daily reports to what has changed shops are full of latest fashion of of western clothing, now the districk i come from in helmand has chadri , even kandahar chadri

Its not just tajiks, hazaras, uzbeks that are wearing jeans or are into western clothing, its the pashtuns too!
The situation in Helmand is very different to Kabul.

[kakargirl]

Thats not completely true.

Okay, it is true that many women in Kabul City have started to wear Western Clothes....but it is pretty modest western clothing. They dont wear tight jeans, they wear long, covered tops over, and they wear scarf with them.....thats because in Kabul women are going to work, going to university, and such.

But to say that about Kabul, not true! Yes, you will see countless, many women in Kabul wearing chadaris.....girls, women, elder women, still wear it.

Like I said, chadari has not only been for Pashtun women, others wear it too.

kabul has changed alot laila when go you will find out my father is shocked at how its changed you will see when you go there its become quite modern .

[kakargirl]

Its not just tajiks, hazaras, uzbeks that are wearing jeans or are into western clothing, its the pashtuns too!
The situation in Helmand is very different to Kabul.

thank you kakarwror see you know how modernized its become my father is there right now so he was abit shocked , i'm so great ful to you wrora i know these things i have cousins who are there that give full feedback lol.

[Laila]

khorey
its not just pashtun farsiwaan cuz there are plenty of pukthane who wear jeans etc in kabul and there are plenty of farsiwaan women who wear chadari.
so its not realy so much pukhtun only thing but yes majority pukhtane would wear it and i remember from back in the days that majority farsiwaan women would wear them.

Exactly! Even majority of Farsizuban prefer to wear chadari and consider it as an insult if they dont.

Its not just tajiks, hazaras, uzbeks that are wearing jeans or are into western clothing, its the pashtuns too!
The situation in Helmand is very different to Kabul.

Yes!

kabul has changed alot laila when go you will find out my father is shocked at how its changed you will see when you go there its become quite modern .

I was there less than 8 months ago.

Even Pashtun women/girls were wearing jeans and such. Kakargirl, i hope you are not thinking that all Tajiks, etc are modernized, dont live up to their Afghan culture....because i cant tell you, that is so not true.

You cannot compare Helmand with Kabul City. You cannot compare a rural, village life to a city life.

[kakargirl]

Exactly! Even majority of Farsizuban prefer to wear chadari and consider it as an insult if they dont.

Yes!


I was there less than 8 months ago.

Even Pashtun women/girls were wearing jeans and such. Kakargirl, i hope you are not thinking that all Tajiks, etc are modernized, dont live up to their Afghan culture....because i cant tell you, that is so not true.

You cannot compare Helmand with Kabul City. You cannot compare a rural, village life to a city life.

look laila i was talking about kabul has changed and you kept saying no, i was saying chadri cant been seen you kept saying no there are , this meant my father who is there is lieing that kabul has become westernizedits not about ethnicity ect i was going to write that people have changed.

[Laila]

look laila i was talking about kabul has changed and you kept saying no, i was saying chadri cant been seen you kept saying no there are , this meant my father who is there is lieing that kabul has become westernized

Yes, i agree that Kabul has changed. I never said it didnt. Now whether you think its a bad or good thing, depends on you.

Yes, chadari is seen in Kabul City. Yes, there are shops there that sell hundreds and hundreds of them. Majority are even made there.

If you want, I can ask my fiance to take a photo before he goes to work today.

No, thinking your dad was lying, never even crossed my mind, because i respect and have ehtaram towards my elders.