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  • #61
    i wouldn't say all of them are necessarily perverts I believe Karachi probably absorbed some of his views because he was unable to respond to such accusations and thereby in that context began to lead him towards similar conclusion. This is only a failure on his part of Being meta-cognitive not perversion.

    However those Christian missionaries or Anti-Islamic polemicists tend to be very deliberate about this kind of thing, so it is possible they're projecting their ow desires on it.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Karachi View Post
      This is extremely rare, and even if Aisha reached puberty, she was still a kid playing with dolls
      Extremely rare? the point is that it still happens, and how would you know what age he even married her at? were you there?
      "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

      -Old Pashtun proverb




      "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
        Extremely rare? the point is that it still happens, and how would you know what age he even married her at? were you there?
        Were you there? argument is very intetesting. This nullifies the whole Islam,as the Islam We believe,come from that time but no one was there.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Badlun View Post
          Were you there? argument is very intetesting. This nullifies the whole Islam,as the Islam We believe,come from that time but no one was there.
          That's a faulty conclusion, we have abundant corroborative evidence that Islam and its structure existed and was sequentially passed down.

          There is no corroborative or dismissive evidence regarding whether a specifically person was a pubescent or not.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
            That's a faulty conclusion, we have abundant corroborative evidence that Islam and its structure existed and was sequentially passed down.

            There is no corroborative or dismissive evidence regarding whether a specifically person was a pubescent or not.
            What scientifically or objectively written book or history We have of that time? Only Quran which is a religious text. Hadith were written hundreds years later by religious men not by objective historians.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Badlun View Post
              What scientifically or objectively written book or history We have of that time? Only Quran which is a religious text. Hadith were written hundreds years later by religious men not by objective historians.

              The entire narrative has been scientifically corroborated. you don't have such multiplicity of source material without it having been existing in history. Hadith weren't "written" hundreds of years later, they were compiled in the Sitta later. Big difference.

              Your comparison is therefore logically faulty and inaccurate.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                Were you there? argument is very intetesting. This nullifies the whole Islam,as the Islam We believe,come from that time but no one was there.
                Badlun,

                The point is that in Islam, pedophelia is haram. Why on earth would you think he slept with a 9 year old girl? All this is just assumptions by Atheists and Christians to try to defame Islam. And No, that did not nullify Islam, you are missing the point completely, probably on purpose.
                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                -Old Pashtun proverb




                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                  Badlun,

                  The point is that in Islam, pedophelia is haram. Why on earth would you think he slept with a 9 year old girl? All this is just assumptions by Atheists and Christians to try to defame Islam. And No, that did not nullify Islam, you are missing the point completely, probably on purpose.
                  Can you please share the proof where in Quran or hadith pedophilia or child marriage are haram? And Ayesha 9 years age has been clearly mentioned in Sahi Bukhari.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                    Can you please share the proof where in Quran or hadith pedophilia or child marriage are haram? And Ayesha 9 years age has been clearly mentioned in Sahi Bukhari.
                    In Islam the concept of Bulugh implies that marriage can only be consummated with someone who is cognizantly capable thereby, it would by default be contrary to pedophilia, since pedophilia does not regard that marriage nor bulugh as a factor in a sexual relationship.

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                    • #70
                      in yemen its still normal in some areas to marry an 9 years old girl
                      you have to distinguish between religion and culture
                      faye's chauffeur

                      Pashton's girlfriend

                      I'm a Pashtun Princes


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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
                        The entire narrative has been scientifically corroborated. you don't have such multiplicity of source material without it having been existing in history. Hadith weren't "written" hundreds of years later, they were compiled in the Sitta later. Big difference.

                        Your comparison is therefore logically faulty and inaccurate.
                        If compiled later,when they were written? Hadith and Quran are not books written by scientists or historians, even not by philosophers.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                          If compiled later,when they were written? Hadith and Quran are not books written by scientists or historians, even not by philosophers.
                          It depends on which hadith, but most of the ones that are known as mutawatir were written during the life of and just after the death of Muhammad.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                            Badlun,

                            The point is that in Islam, pedophelia is haram. Why on earth would you think he slept with a 9 year old girl? All this is just assumptions by Atheists and Christians to try to defame Islam. And No, that did not nullify Islam, you are missing the point completely, probably on purpose.
                            You are blaming atheists and christians for what Islamic scholars and mullahs have been saying for centuries, this is pure stupidity. This is mentioned in Sahi Bukhari, Now if you dont believe in hadiths, thats a different story

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
                              In Islam the concept of Bulugh implies that marriage can only be consummated with someone who is cognizantly capable thereby, it would by default be contrary to pedophilia, since pedophilia does not regard that marriage nor bulugh as a factor in a sexual relationship.
                              The reality is, in the middle eastern, central asian and even south asian cultures there is really no such thing as pedophilia. This is why things like Bacha Bazi are happening

                              Islam is a product of these cultures, this is why it is pretty normal for a 54 year man to marry a 9 year old. Even though it is so wrong

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                                You are blaming atheists and christians for what Islamic scholars and mullahs have been saying for centuries, this is pure stupidity. This is mentioned in Sahi Bukhari, Now if you dont believe in hadiths, thats a different story
                                Look bro, if you and Badlun are closeted atheists who doubt Islam than thats your problem, but there is no need to criticize an event you were not even there yourself to witness. I wasn't blaming anybody, and if you think the prophet was the kind of person then you are a kaffir by default to assume such a thing.

                                and no hadiths say anything about him having sexual relations with Aisha, your making stuff up.
                                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                                -Old Pashtun proverb




                                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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