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  • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
    In your mind, Muhammad can't do no wrong. As a consequence, you will continue to sugarcoat Muhammad actions.

    Here is another one,

    Muhammad marries 11 wives, he then receives a message from "God" that decrees the maximum number of wives is 4.
    Even if that were the case ...the evidence is right there thar your portrayal of what happened is largely skewed. That's something that you can't get around.

    All you seemed to be doing is reading an anti Islam site and just rattling off whatever they spin as an issue. Like Muhammad's marriages has been debated for decades by critics and theyve never made any meaningful predictions from their premise . Again this has never been a controversy as there are many things required for someone in his position that others were not obliged to do. This has actually never been a real issue

    Even from a purely secular perpsective leaders are required certain responsibilities and with it have dispensations .

    Much ado about nothing as they say.
    Last edited by Brown Skinned Savage; 08-03-2015, 07:58 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
      Even if that were the case ...the evidence is right there thar your portrayal of what happened is largely skewed. That's something that you can't get around.

      All you seemed to be doing is reading an anti Islam site and just rattling off whatever they spin as an issue. Like Muhammad's marriages has been debated for decades by critics and theyve never made any meaningful predictions from their premise . Again this has never been a controversy as there are many things required for someone in his position that others were not obliged to do. This has actually never been a real issue

      Even from a purely secular perpsective leaders are required certain responsibilities and with it have dispensations .

      Much ado about nothing as they say.
      You didn't answer it. You just brushed it off.

      And I am aware of the excuse that muslims use, I was a muslim afterall.
      Creating allegiances, political etc...

      But why would a messenger of God need to marry this many women?
      Why does he need to make alliances when he had God backing him.

      This is something a man who doesn't have God backing him would do, like a normal King.
      It was not an issue before because this is what Kings and rulers do, kings do whatever they like.
      So you believe one King will judge another king who loves pusssy?

      If Muhammad is a man of God then Muhammad is a hypocrite.

      I don't follow Anti-Islam websites. These things trouble everybody.
      Even my mom who is a devout muslim has trouble understanding why Muhammad married a 6 year old girl.
      She doesn't know how to use the internet. & hasn't read any anti-islam material.

      I just accepted that Muhammad was a ruler like any other.
      He is not a Man of God.
      Last edited by Damir9000; 08-03-2015, 08:19 PM.



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      • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
        You didn't answer it. You just brushed it off.

        And I am aware of the excuse that muslims use, I was a muslim afterall.
        Creating allegiances, political etc...

        But why would a messenger of God need to marry this many women?
        Why does he need to make alliances when he had God backing him.

        This is something a man who doesn't have God backing him would do, like a normal King.
        It was not an issue before because this is what Kings and rulers do, kings do whatever they like.
        So you believe one King will judge another king who loves pusssy?

        If Muhammad is a man of God then Muhammad is a hypocrite.

        I don't follow Anti-Islam websites. These things trouble everybody.
        Even my mom who is a devout muslim has trouble understanding why Muhammad married a 6 year old girl.
        She doesn't know how to use the internet. & hasn't read any anti-islam material.

        I just accepted that Muhammad was a ruler like any other.
        He is not a Man of God.
        Theres nothing to answer there's actually no issue here. Leaders have certain obligations and dispensations. ..that's how things are in most organized groups.

        If there was actually foul play then your premise must meet its predictions which so far it hasn't

        You may as well argue about Muhammad wearing a green turban instead of a blue one.

        These things don't trouble anyone that doesn't project an issue on it.

        One way I can demonstrate that your perception is skewed by anti Islam sites is by challenging you to show a questionable situation not covered by any anti Islam site.

        I can think of several let's see if you can.

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        • Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
          Theres nothing to answer there's actually no issue here. Leaders have certain obligations and dispensations. ..that's how things are in most organized groups.

          If there was actually foul play then your premise must meet its predictions which so far it hasn't

          You may as well argue about Muhammad wearing a green turban instead of a blue one.

          These things don't trouble anyone that doesn't project an issue on it.

          One way I can demonstrate that your perception is skewed by anti Islam sites is by challenging you to show a questionable situation not covered by any anti Islam site.

          I can think of several let's see if you can.
          you just completely ignored what I said.



          "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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          • Are you saying my mom read about critiques from anti-islam websites or books?
            She made her own judgement. But she lets it slide because he is "the prophet of God"
            Last edited by Damir9000; 08-03-2015, 08:39 PM.



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            • Everybody finds what Kings/Rulers did in the past as abhorrent.
              They obviously couldn't criticize them back then.
              They do now because they finally can.

              Muhammad did act like a King/Ruler.
              But why would a prophet of God/Example for all mankind act like that ?
              Last edited by Damir9000; 08-03-2015, 08:40 PM.



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              • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                you just completely ignored what I said.
                Ok let's try it this way


                Starting with Muhammad's marriages vs. the Qur'an's injunctions for marriage. What sort of predictive results would you expect for someone who is motivated by questionable interests?

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                • Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
                  Ok let's try it this way


                  Starting with Muhammad's marriages vs. the Qur'an's injunctions for marriage. What sort of predictive results would you expect for someone who is motivated by questionable interests?
                  Since, Muhammad painted himself as example for men.
                  He obviously saw that this wouldn't work on grand scale.
                  If God really decreed 4 wives maximum, he would've told Muhammad earlier, so that it wouldn't make him look Muhammad like a hypocrite.
                  Muhammad realized people would follow his example.

                  and I am not an Anti-Islam guy.
                  I disagree with Christianity and Judaism too.



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                  • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                    Since, Muhammad painted himself as example for men.
                    He obviously saw that this wouldn't work on grand scale.
                    If God really decreed 4 wives maximum, he would've told Muhammad earlier, so that it wouldn't make him look Muhammad like a hypocrite.
                    Muhammad realized people would follow his example.

                    and I am not an Anti-Islam guy.
                    I disagree with Christianity and Judaism too.

                    Being anti-Islam does not necessarily correspond with being pro-Christian or Pro-Jewish

                    The verses about four wives was revealed in Surah al Nisa, which is a Medinian Surah, which was the 100th Surah to be revealed. Which means it happened AFTER Muhammad(saw) started having more than 4 wives.

                    Thereby invalidating your prediction.

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                    • Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
                      Being anti-Islam does not necessarily correspond with being pro-Christian or Pro-Jewish

                      The verses about four wives was revealed in Surah al Nisa, which is a Medinian Surah, which was the 100th Surah to be revealed. Which means it happened AFTER Muhammad(saw) started having more than 4 wives.

                      Thereby invalidating your prediction.
                      wow.
                      So you're saying before Muhammad had four wives. He revealed a surah that says muslim should have a maximum of four wives, but it is recommended only to have one.

                      Is that correct?



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                      • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                        wow.
                        So you're saying before Muhammad had four wives. He revealed a surah that says muslim should have a maximum of four wives, but it is recommended only to have one.

                        Is that correct?
                        Not Quite

                        What I am saying is that, Muhammad had more than 4 wives prior to the verse about 4 wives was revealed.

                        And the recommendation was that if you cannot treat each wife fairly ....then the recommendation is to marry only one.

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                        • Hmmm..I wonder if 9 year olds can breast feed.




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                          • This 9 year old can

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                            • Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
                              This 9 year old can
                              That's a lovely young couple.

                              Too bad, Muhammad treated Aisha like a hole.



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                              • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                                That's a lovely young couple.

                                Too bad, Muhammad treated Aisha like a hole.

                                Just like your Uncle must have treated you., you must be projecting.

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