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  • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
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    Why are you even angry about this picture?

    .

    Yeah I know right, especially considering this was a fictitious portrayal by European Orientalists.

    Which you CLAIM you haven't been indoctrinated by ....ahem ahem



    Some of the first nineteenth-century Orientalist paintings were intended as propaganda in support of French imperialism, depicting the East as a place of backwardness, lawlessness, or barbarism enlightened and tamed by French rule. Antoine-Jean Gros (1771–1835)—a pupil of Jacques Louis David and a history painter in Napoleon's employ who never traveled to the Near East himself—conveys this idea in Napoleon in the Plague House at Jaffa (1804; Musée du Louvre, Paris), featuring an Eastern architectural setting and figures in exotic dress. A propagandizing work, it depicts the then-general's visit to plague-afflicted prisoners during the siege of Jaffa. Recalling both Christian imagery and the divine touch of kings

    and this

    Some of the most popular Orientalist genre scenes—and the ones most influential in shaping Western aesthetics—depict harems. Probably denied entrance to authentic seraglios, male artists relied largely on hearsay and imagination, populating opulently decorated interiors with luxuriant odalisques, or female slaves or concubines (many with Western features), reclining in the nude or in Oriental dress. Jean-Auguste-Dominique Ingres (1780–1867) never traveled to the East, but used the harem setting to conjure an erotic ideal in his voluptuous odalisques. Beyond their implicit eroticism, harem scenes evoked a sense of cultivated beauty and pampered isolation to which many Westerners aspired

    and somehow you'e from Afghanistan?

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    • Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
      Yeah I know right, especially considering this was a fictitious portrayal by European Orientalists.

      Which you CLAIM you haven't been indoctrinated by ....ahem ahem






      and this




      and somehow you'e from Afghanistan?
      I found it on Google images.
      I don't even know what an Orientalist is. lol


      It's funny when I make fun of you about not being a Pashtun.
      But when you do it, it is really pathetic.



      "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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      • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
        I found it on Google images.
        I don't even know what an Orientalist is. lol


        It's funny when I make fun of you about not being a Pashtun.
        But when you do it, it is really pathetic.
        Probably because when I do it, it actually hurts your feelings. hahhhaa

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        • [QUOTE=Brown Skinned Savage;769792]Yeah I know right, especially considering this was a fictitious portrayal by European Orientalists.



          and somehow you'e from Afghanistan?[/QUOTE]

          Yes, My family left to Canada when I was 3.

          What about you? Were you born there at least?
          Last edited by Damir9000; 08-10-2015, 12:49 PM.



          "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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          • Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
            Probably because when I do it, it actually hurts your feelings. hahhhaa
            How can you hurt my feelings?
            btw, how old are you?



            "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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            • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post

              Yes, My family left to Canada when I was 3.

              What about you? Were you born there at least?

              How old are you? You sound pretty young.

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              • Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
                How old are you? You sound pretty young.
                We left because of the mujaheddin civil war. Calculate yourself.
                I am young.

                How old are you?
                Where were you born?



                "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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                • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                  I read the book. I tried to make sense of it for 20 years. I wasn't convinced. You probably accepted it like Hindu kids do. Without any thought.

                  Language like this will make you spend time in hell fire.
                  You should watch your language like the prophet.

                  On the contrary, i tried to prove it wrong for 20 years until i was convinced it was the word of God.

                  You read the book, but you are clearly stupid - 20 years of reading yet you don't know what an Orientalist is, with a brain like that i'm not surprised you couldn't make sense of it. I could ask you a few questions and you wouldn't even have a clue why you follow atheism apart from to fit into society and have an easier social life.
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                  *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                  Originally posted by Karachi
                  like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                  • Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                    On the contrary, i tried to prove it wrong for 20 years until i was convinced it was the word of God.

                    You read the book, but you are clearly stupid - 20 years of reading yet you don't know what an Orientalist is, with a brain like that i'm not surprised you couldn't make sense of it. I could ask you a few questions and you wouldn't even have a clue why you follow atheism apart from to fit into society and have an easier social life.
                    We don't learn about Orientalism here in Canada.
                    Should we learn it?
                    Pray to Allah for me, so I can find the truth.
                    I didn't read the Quran for 20 years. I was a muslim for 20 years.



                    "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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                    • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                      We left because of the mujaheddin civil war. Calculate yourself.
                      I am young.

                      How old are you?
                      Where were you born?
                      So you were born late 80's/Early 90's?

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                      • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                        Which Muhammad? well Muhammad. It can be any Muhammad.
                        It wouldn't surprise me if the guy in the picture is actually named Muhammad...
                        But If you like, you can think it's Prophet Muhammad.
                        I just called it "Muhammad". You imagined the prophet reference yourself.
                        you connected your own dots.

                        It's a 19th century painting by GIULIO ROSATI.
                        It's called "The Harem Dance".

                        Oh you just called it Muhammad for no apparent reason. Coward.
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                        *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                        Originally posted by Karachi
                        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                        • Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
                          So you were born late 80's/Early 90's?
                          yes

                          What about you? Tell me about yourself?



                          "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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                          • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                            We don't learn about Orientalism here in Canada.
                            Should we learn it?
                            Pray to Allah for me, so I can find the truth.
                            I didn't read the Quran for 20 years. I was a muslim for 20 years.

                            You never took world history in high school? How would you not learn about orientalism? I thought Canada had a great educational curriculum.

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                            • Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                              Oh you just called it Muhammad for no apparent reason. Coward.
                              Muhammad is cool name.
                              I have a friend who's name is Muhammad Muhammad jr. .
                              Both first and last name is Muhammad.
                              His father's name is also Muhammad Muhammad.

                              Strange I know.



                              "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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                              • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                                yes

                                What about you? Tell me about yourself?
                                I was born in Kandahar mid-80's

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