Message Of Felicitation Of The Esteemed Amir-Ul-Momineen On The Occasion Of Eid-Ul-F

[Haris]

Graveyardofempires and ScimitarXEdge please refrain from mentioning family members in your discussions and arguments.

[graveyardofempires]

dear Haris it seems you guys have a special spot for this freak who constantly is attacking Afghan people.I guess you havent seen his comment where he calls Afghans and mullahs as beard having tuban wearing pedophiles.

[Haris]

Brother, I have no soft spot for anyone, atleast not in any moderating capacity.

No, I have not seen the post you are referring to, neither have I seen any reported post of that nature.

Report the posts you find offensive and they will be dealt with: http://www.pashtunforums.com/support...e-posts-18759/

[ScimitarXEdge]

disrespecting my father shows how low you are on the Pashtun scale.
but than again as the Pashto saying goes :

که مردار سپی د سین نه اوبه وسکې نو ټول سین نه مرداریږې
ive also reported your post as insulting and now we will see if PF is going to take any action.

what You disrespect my father. hypocrite

[ScimitarXEdge]

dear Haris it seems you guys have a special spot for this freak who constantly is attacking Afghan people.I guess you havent seen his comment where he calls Afghans and mullahs as beard having tuban wearing pedophiles.

nah he saw your comment about my father becoming Arab, not that is a bad thing, but you're clearly trying to slur my father

He knows that Pakhtun gives badal; and I gave my badal

[randolph85]

To expand on what I said regarding culpability.. I think you are losing site of the forest and trading it for a set of trees.

The issue here is that a massive crime occured which is and was the imperial hegemony in the Muslim world by the West. The massive self inflicted crime has been the Muslim's own hand in perpetuating and furtherning this occupation and tyranny.

Afghanistan itself was a free land and became occupied by an outside power with a goal of subverting Islamic law as its primary objective and harnassing resources as a secondary objective. Yes, in that order.

So now, the original criminal, the perpetrator needs to be turned out as he deprived Afghans and Afghanistan the right of its own natural evolution of a system of governance.

So Mullah Omar, at most is guitly of operating in a theater of war environment where he is fighting guerilla style. Somehow somewhere wikileaks reports that he does daily sajdaay to Hamid Gul... but nonetheless no one else can find or locate him... not even by trailing that crafty Hamid Gul (absurd). To expect Mullah Omar to be able to inflict punishment on a perpetrator for a crime in a province lying far away from where he likely directs from (remember he is high value target number 2) is a request lacking in reality.

The issue here is who is the criminal that comitted the original crime that led to this suffering on a national and world scale. I referenced the evolution and radicalization of the taliban below previously:
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Take a look at the Sikh's view of their survival in Afghanistan before the American invasion:

"The Taliban did not suppress us -- they respected our religion and if we had any problem they would resolve it immediately, let alone delay it until the next day," says Singh.
Some Afghan Hindus were baffled by Western outrage at one Taliban decree -- ordering them to wear a yellow tag to identify their religion -- saying in practical terms it spared their clean-shaven faces from the wrath of the Taliban religious police, who insisted Muslim Afghan men must grow beards."

http://in.reuters.com/article/2010/0...49826020100702

Compare this to the radicalization and treatment afterwards as NATO presence hardened in the region:

http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...-religious-tax

"The Taliban has reportedly beheaded two Sikhs in Pakistan's lawless tribal region bordering Afghanistan and sent the heads to a gurdwara."

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So Randolph, I look at the context of the crime and the scenario and view it as the US bears the brunt of the responsibily by setting of the chain of events that led to the unfortunate and bloody Afghan occupation, unleashing Chaos and I say:

out with the occupier... the Afghans will mete out justice to their own (Omar) if need be.

u are saying that the man who is the head of the group that is giving NATO hell in afghanistan has no power to punish people who claim loyalty to him? what the. the taliban can assassinate heavily guarded high value targets but can't punish their own for crimes against islam? mullah omar seems to have the ahmad shah massoud syndrome.

again, its the case of not taking personal responsibility. we might as well exonerate the mazaris, massouds, and sayafs because their murderous rampages were set off by a chain of events beginning with the soviet invasion.

u are giving the talibans crimes leniency because they are fighting a war. i am pretty sure if one of those kidnapped kids were your son, u probably wouldn't say hey well nato invaded afghanistan so its all good. also, why are u under the impression that afghanistan was a peaceful abode prior to the US invasion? we both know that isn't true.

[randolph85]

Take a look at what i wrote above... it appears you reached the same logical conclusion minus 1 step.

Now go one step further... who unleashed this chaos?
That is the criminal and the occupier.

what difference does it make who unleashed the chaos? theres nothing in islam that says killing or kidnapping innocent muslims is ok if you are fighting a war. if someone goes to afghanistan today to fight the foreigners that doesn't give him the right to kill innocent civilians. though from the looks of it, he would get away with it since the commander of the faithful doesnt seem to bat an eye.

whats not logical is seeing masjids/funerals/public areas bombed by those who call themselves muslims and defenders of islam and then blaming the west for that particular act while not even bothering to condemn the perpetrators of the act. or posting an article about fair treatment of non muslims during the taliban regime and then posting an article about 2 of them being beheaded and somehow putting the blame solely on the west for the taliban beheading innocent people.

[unknownprince]

whats messed up is uncle toms living in the West condemning Afghans, people who sit, typing on their laptop and sip their mocha lattes while spitting condemnations, and telling others what is right and wrong. Uncle toms who have not had family members killed in airstrikes/ night raids.

thats frikin messed up.

[randolph85]

whats messed up is uncle toms living in the West condemning Afghans, people who sit, typing on their laptop and sip their mocha lattes while spitting condemnations, and telling others what is right and wrong. Uncle toms who have not had family members killed in airstrikes/ night raids.

thats frikin messed up.

aren't u condemning afghans in the government? LOL so i take it u are not living in a western country?

and yeah u are right, how dare us say killing and kidnapping innocents is wrong. the nerve.

[unknownprince]

what friking government are you talking about? The Kabul slaves? Uncle tom statement from an uncle tom.

include Uncle tom sell outs in the illegal gang of cowards sitting in kabul

[randolph85]

uncle toms living in the West condemning Afghans,

what friking government are you talking about? The Kabul slaves? Uncle tom statement from an uncle tom.

so u are condemning afghans also. u always seem to miss the point, no matter how clear it is. its no fault of mine and i know u are retarded, just dont say retarded things.

[randolph85]

here are the ttp that kidnapped the teens, not media shy as i have pointed out.



here are some of teens they kidnapped and are holding hostage






so again i ask, where is the leader of the taliban to denounce this, set these kids free, and execute the kidnappers?

[کیش]

Are they real TTP, or a group of highway bandits?

[randolph85]

The Pakistani Taliban said on Saturday they were holding 30 Pakistani boys who were abducted three days ago after being lured across the border into Afghanistan. Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Spokesman Ehsanullah Ahsan said that the boys were kidnapped because they belong to a tribe opposed to the group.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

the ttps official spokesperson had no problem taking claim.

[کیش]

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

the ttps official spokesperson had no problem taking claim.

Who is this double Eshan? He was killed years ago I remember, now he came from the grave to be the spokesperson for the TTP?


The TTP spokesperson is Azam Tareq, Muslim Khan and maulvi omar