Non-Pashtuns independance?

[ComradePashtun]

Yeah heard of this Pakistani arguement, as if Pakistan has problems with Tajiks in Afghanistan. How dumb can this guy get. Slaves cowards and are those who leave the battlefield and run to Koolab and then only land back with help foreigners. A slave cannot brave the heat of B52s and a 21st century super power the world's ever largest military organisation NATO along with their bacha berish slaves such as Kadozadah. Taliban are history makers.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

I don't think that is the case. Constant whinning, logical fallacy, lying, faking, back-stabbing is patahlogical to the likes of you. You have demostrated that very well here in this forum. We hardly care about the likes of you nor give you much importance in this forum. Obviously Pashtun will dominate every shade of politics in Afghanistan which is normal. Khalilzad a influential neo-con says much about Pashtuns on the international stage, and Karzai and Wardak you president and defence minister reinforces Pashtun dominance in even under most disadvantage time and circumstance. Non of them want U.S. staying in Afghanistan but all I hear and see in Afghan TV is Tajik rosshan fikran/intellectual mediocres like you who are santioning it forcefuly and desperately.

At the end of the day, they are politicians just the likes of bandits who you admire and have to play along and do what is in their interest and in interest of Afghanistan. But this doesn't disprove that the likes of you under the shadow of of American have wrought so much on Pashtuns which you will be liable for one day. You talk big because of foreign protection, otherwise you would've been a bacha berish if Taliban were still around.

As for your thread, I am telling you that if you really were capable doing what you could then you would be the last person to come here and ask us about our opinion regarding the fate of Afghanistan. I will tell that all power to you and do what it in your power. But you can't do crap, you are all talk.

Comerad, you are part of the traitors that brought thousand times foreigners. Last but not least US and Russia... US was brought by you, not by NA or Hazaras or Shias or ''Ghalis'' ... you moron. You will see at the end again you will lose everything. That Pashtun dominate today the government is because Karzai played at the end of 2009 the ethnical card but we still dominate those stages that are important for us and our independance. If Taliban come back and this time they will surely hunt people like you too (and there are hundred of thousands of your-like) you will see what you self, one time again, caused to your owns. No matter what comes. The educated and civilised people will make their decisions. Those who have enough suffering will soon stand up and do what it is correct. Karzai and his homosexual and pedophile criminal gang and their culture with all their lies won´t remain long. There is already something rolling

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

Yeah heard of this Pakistani arguement, as if Pakistan has problems with Tajiks in Afghanistan. How dumb can this guy get. Slaves cowards and are those who leave the battlefield and run to Koolab and then only land back with help foreigners. A slave cannot brave the heat of B52s and a 21st century super power the world's ever largest military organisation NATO along with their bacha berish slaves such as Kadozadah. Taliban are history makers.

You are coward people. You cry when NATO bomb the **** out of you why they killed innocent people just because two or three of you cowards were hiden in their masses but you claim to defeat NATO? Nato need just bomb the entire region and there won´t be more Taliban or terrorists... but unlike Taliban NATO belong to a civilised world. You can not beat NATO or US ... they can only run off money but never can beaten by some mountan people. Go and hide yourself or use IEDs... you proved it once by killing 12 000 civilians (children, women ...) and 4000 poor equipped indo-british soldiers in a very deep winter ... 45 000 Ghalzais versus 4000 ... that is what you are proud of and what is written in your history books ... but never who those 16 000 were .. strange, huh?

[ComradePashtun]

Kadozadah,

You are single-minded in your patholigical BS and yet you dare to tell others to be logical.

On one hand you say that you were the true rulers, while also claimING that you had a cause against Pashtuns and you also espouse the rights of Uzbaks and Hazaras as if there indeed is united non-Pashtun front, which you non-entity Kadozadah would love. But history has proven this wrong. When the Durrani Empire disintegrated for a brief before Amir Dost Mohammed Khan ascended to the throne, there was a bitter civil war in which Tajiks took on Uzbak, and Uzbaks on Afsharids, Tajiks on Hazaras and Aymaq etc. When Bacha e Saqaw took power for the short period, the first to rise against him were Hazaras. Much to your fallacy, Massoud massacred Hazaras, and Hazaras and Uzbaks even sided with Gulbadin against Massoud. And every and each time when Afghanistan have descended into chaos Pashtuns have come in and restored order and have swept aside bandists such as your great grand dad Sqaw and Massoudov and have brought order. You are inherently inept to rule the country. What you rather focus on is wishful thinking from minutiae of events in Afghan politics. Just as how you think, you mediocre Kadozadah ruled the country according to your skewed logic. You are no good, you hillarious fool.

I think Uzbaks are well represented and so are Hazaras, if they ever feel some kind of a problem I doubt they would come to you, they appraoch us directly. You have a bad record with them.

[ComradePashtun]

Comerad, you are part of the traitors that brought thousand times foreigners. Last but not least US and Russia... US was brought by you, not by NA or Hazaras or Shias or ''Ghalis'' ... you moron. You will see at the end again you will lose everything. That Pashtun dominate today the government is because Karzai played at the end of 2009 the ethnical card but we still dominate those stages that are important for us and our independance. If Taliban come back and this time they will surely hunt people like you too (and there are hundred of thousands of your-like) you will see what you self, one time again, caused to your owns. No matter what comes. The educated and civilised people will make their decisions. Those who have enough suffering will soon stand up and do what it is correct. Karzai and his homosexual and pedophile criminal gang and their culture with all their lies won´t remain long. There is already something rolling

We are the one with the true and right cause and will fight tooth to nail and to the last drop of our blood. We never back-down. We will not back-down for the next 300 hundred years! You will be hunted.

Your Babrak Karmal brought the Russians, and NA brought the Americans, you fool. I think we do have a fight on our hands and we are winning it. We will win, god is on our side. There are indeed hunreds of thousands of us, we battle you Kadozadah, we will make you run on your heels to Tajikistan once again.

[ComradePashtun]

Kadozadah,

Do you really think that you can sit behind your computer and threaten us and intimidate us that you are bracing for a war against Karzai and Taliban? Can you fight Taliban, seriously? Who are you talking to, haven't you learned from pathetic history? What does history say? Come on then, you know history too well, tell us. Kadozadah, I will personally make you dance like a dancing-boy like those of your fellow bacha berish after laughing at you hard and then shoot you in the aaz at the end for of the fun. I am sure bandits like do not represent no Afghan community. The era of you fools is gone.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

Kadozadah,

You are single-minded in your BS and yet you dare to tell others to be logical.

On one hand you say that you were the true rulers, while then you also claim that you had a cause against Pashtuns and you also espouse the rights of Uzbaks and Hazaras as if there indeed is united non-Pashtun front, which you non-entity Kadozadah would love. But history has proven this wrong. When the Durrani Empire disintegrated for a breif time before Dosstam Mohammed Khan ascended to the thorn, there was a bitter civil war in which Tajiks took on Uzbak, and Uzbaks on Afsharids, Tajiks on Hazaras and Aymaq etc. When Bacha e Saqaw took power for the short period, the first to rise against him were Hazaras. Much to your fallacy, Massoud massacred Hazaras, and Hazaras and Uzbaks even sided with Gulbadin against Massoud. And every and each time when Afghanistan have descended into chaos Pashtun have come in and restored order and have swept aside bandists such as your great grand dad Sqaw and Massoudov and have brought order. You are inherently inept to rule the country. What you rather focus on is wishful thinking from minutiae of events in Afghan politics. Just as how you think, you mediocre Kadozadah ruled the country in your skew logic. You are no good, you hillarious fool. If you dealed with them succesfully you can come and try yourself on Massouds shadows.

I think Uzbaks are well represented and so are Hazaras, if they even feel some kind of a problem I doubt they would come to you, they appraoch us directly. You have a bad record with them.

Does those evenst changed anything to fight the thugs, murderers, traditional slaves of the slaves of the slaves together and united? You just need to wait till NATO start it´s withdraw. Your Haqqani Heroes won´t survive more facing an ANA and a new NA. Just sit and wait. Before making any comments on me or ANA or NA or Massoud have a bit ghairat and go and rescue your own back from Pakistan. They are coming .. coming for you! Go and deal first with them succesfully and than come back and deal with Massoud´s shadow. But back to the topic after your BSs and dreams and lies, propagandas and fake claims (you just fool yourself and your-like people just to go with a good feeling sleeping). Would you accept that they can establish their own states?

[ComradePashtun]

You are coward people. You cry when NATO bomb the **** out of you why they killed innocent people just because two or three of you cowards were hiden in their masses but you claim to defeat NATO? Nato need just bomb the entire region and there won´t be more Taliban or terrorists... but unlike Taliban NATO belong to a civilised world. You can not beat NATO or US ... they can only run off money but never can beaten by some mountan people. Go and hide yourself or use IEDs... you proved it once by killing 12 000 civilians (children, women ...) and 4000 poor equipped indo-british soldiers in a very deep winter ... 45 000 Ghalzais versus 4000 ... that is what you are proud of and what is written in your history books ... but never who those 16 000 were .. strange, huh?

You are a dishonourable and a true coward. Unfortunately, unless they nuke us, Taliban will fight them. We as people are much stronger, just like the Viet Congs were. Obviously, the tactics you refer to are Taliban weapon of choice since they don't have drone, F16s and the rest. It is unfare competition/war, but we have the stamina and resolve. When I say we, our warriors the Taliban and the your NATO/U.S. fathers.

We bare foot armed with sword beat that massive British regiment. It was nice. We have alsp beaten other entities, be them the non-entity Kadazadahs like you fair and square too.

[ComradePashtun]

Does those evenst changed anything to fight the thugs, murderers, traditional slaves of the slaves of the slaves together and united? You just need to wait till NATO start it´s withdraw. Your Haqqani Heroes won´t survive more facing an ANA and a new NA. Just sit and wait. Before making any comments on me or ANA or NA or Massoud have a bit ghairat and go and rescue your own back from Pakistan. They are coming .. coming for you! Go and deal first with them succesfully and than come back and deal with Massoud´s shadow. But back to the topic after your BSs and dreams and lies, propagandas and fake claims (you just fool yourself and your-like people just to go with a good feeling sleeping). Would you accept that they can establish their own states?

Are you stupid or what? You are the only slave on the block. Pakis can't do anything! I am not in the business of "just waiting", when I say I will do it then I do it. I am not a coward like to have ran away in every fight. You just waint for NATO/U.S. to leave and this time you will be dealt with decisively once and for all. ANA without Pashtun help will be routed in a week max in the south and east. Then NA will be fought in pitch-battles untill it submits itself to the men of god and honour. Men of god wont backdown untill victory is not achieved. You can't establish nothing, you are a coward and a slave. A slave desrves servitude, nothing less or more.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

You are a dishonourable and a true coward. Unfortunately, unless they nuke us Taliban will fight them. We as people are much stronger, just like the Viet Congs were. Obviously, the tactics you refer to are Taliban weapon of choice since they don't drone, F16s and the rest. It is unfare competition/war, but we have the stamina and resolve. When I see we, our warriors the Taliban and the your NATO/U.S. fathers.

We bare foot armed with sword beat that massive British regiment. It was nice. We have other entities, be then the non-entity Kadazadahs fair and square too.

100 years ago your defeat and cowardice was not different. Killing 12 000 civilians but at the end they installed their puppets ... yes, US use drones but within Pakistan. Apachees are only used on mountainous regions where it would be hard for the soldiers going there... one reason because all their weaponeries, clothes, bags weight ca. 40 - 45kg and the second reason is they do not know all the caves, routes and regions. Taliban know it since they are from these regions or lived there many years. After 09/11 90% of all reconquest was under the hands NA. The US supported them only from the air by bombing Taliban flanks on high positions that later felt to NA hands. Be happy they do not use tanks otherwise Taliban wouldn´t have any second to laugh. And thank you, you proved your coward behave.... so you hide yourself behind children because you are not men enough to fight NATO and ANA?

Are you stupid or what? You are the only slave on the block. Pakis can't do anything! I am in the business of "just waiting", when I say I do it. I am not coward like to have run away in every fight. You just waint for NATO/U.S. to leave and this time you will be dealt with decisively once and for all. ANA without Pashtun help will be routed in a week max in the south and east. Then NA will be foot petch battles untill it submits itself to the men of god and honour. Men of god wont backdown untill victory is not achieved. You can't establish nothing, you a coward and a slave. A slave desrves servitude, nothing less or more.

Just wait and see. Swear as long as you can and you have time. At the end we will see for a thousand time again who will lose. Btw, with such a comment you are pro-independance for non-Pashtuns who do not want to live under Taliban or Taliban like natures and creatures?

[ComradePashtun]

Does those evenst changed anything to fight the thugs, murderers, traditional slaves of the slaves of the slaves together and united? You just need to wait till NATO start it´s withdraw. Your Haqqani Heroes won´t survive more facing an ANA and a new NA. Just sit and wait. Before making any comments on me or ANA or NA or Massoud have a bit ghairat and go and rescue your own back from Pakistan. They are coming .. coming for you! Go and deal first with them succesfully and than come back and deal with Massoud´s shadow. But back to the topic after your BSs and dreams and lies, propagandas and fake claims (you just fool yourself and your-like people just to go with a good feeling sleeping). Would you accept that they can establish their own states?

Are you stupid or what? You are the only slave on the block. Pakis can't do anything! I am not in the business of "just waiting", when I say I do it. I am not a coward like you to have run away in every fight. You just waint for NATO/U.S. to leave and this time you will be dealt with decisively once and for all. ANA without Pashtun help will be routed in a week max in the south and east. Then NA will be fought pitch-battles untill it submits itself to the men of god and honour. Men of god wont backdown untill victory is not achieved. You can't establish nothing, you a coward and a slave. A slave desrves servitude, nothing less or more.

[ComradePashtun]

100 years ago your defeat and cowardice was not different. Killing 12 000 civilians but at the end they installed their puppets ... yes, US use drones but within Pakistan. Apachees are only used on mountainous regions where it would be hard for the soldiers going there... one reason because all their weaponeries, clothes, bags weight ca. 40 - 45kg and the second reason is they do not know all the caves, routes and regions. Taliban know it since they are from these regions or lived there many years. After 09/11 90% of all reconquest was under the hands NA. The US supported them only from the air by bombing Taliban flanks on high positions that later felt to NA hands. Be happy they do not use tanks otherwise Taliban wouldn´t have any second to laugh. And thank you, you proved your coward behave.... so you hide yourself behind children because you are not men enough to fight NATO and ANA?

Just wait and see. Swear as long as you can and you have time. At the end we will see for a thousand time again who will lose. Btw, with such a comment you are pro-independance for non-Pashtuns who do not want to live under Taliban or Taliban like natures and creatures?

Say what you want, but the war against your U.S. fathers is one of attrition. And is working and very effective, don't you know that despite the appachies they abandoned eastern provinces i.e. Kunar, Nooristan etc? While we defeated the British 100 years ago, the Russians have further cross-breeded Toojikostanis in Tojikiston. That is why you are non-entity. lol

Not thousands, but for a million time you will loose. Why? Because you are a spineless coward who will instead run away untill may be next time Chinese could come and rescue you. You corrupt filthy boy-player bach berish. You rather live happy and in bacha bazi than fight men of god, who you will never be able to stand and face. Non-Pashtun have no problem with Pashtuns, and vice versa, those who does like you will be dealt with swiftly.

[ScimitarXEdge]

But non-Pashtun Muslims do not accept Taliban Muslims or Pakistani Muslims who are influenced by Deobandis and other Wahabit groups and Pashtuns do not like Shia Muslims and vice versa. Many Pashtuns even dislike Tajiks. Such people are mostly among the Ghilzai Pashtuns. A hate that can be traced back at least 200 years. But please, go on the main topic. And look what a hypocrite brother graveyard is. He is pushing for a Pashtun state or Loy Pashtunistan and at the same time he thanks you for your words not deviding people. Double-face people tststs

Your portrayal is not exactly true; there are Uzbek and Tajik Muslims who want a unified Islamic Society, most of the Islamic Movements of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan support other Muslims regardless of ethnic group.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

Say what you want, but the war against your U.S. fathers is one of attrition. And is working and very effective, don't you know that despite the appachies they abandoned eastern provinces i.e. Kunar, Nooristan etc? While we defeated the British 100 years ago, the Russians have further cross-breeded Toojikostanis in Tojikiston. That is why you are non-entity. lol

Not thousands, but for million time you will loose. Why? Because you are a spineless coward who will instead run away untill may be next time Chinese could come and rescue you. You corrupt filthy boy-player bach berish. You rather live happy and in bacha bazi than fight men of god, who you will never be able to stand and face. Non-Pashtun have no problem with Pashtuns, and vice versa, those who does like you will be dealt with swiftly.

Your culture and identiyt was Bacha Bazi. That was even attested by the British, you moron.http://books.google.de/books?id=EIY2...page&q&f=false p.157 . For more information, read the book Butcher and Bolt. “women for breeding, boys for pleasure, but melons for sheer delight. One lives with high hopes for melons!” Bachai Bazi is nothing else than pedophilia and we know for sure in which society it occures mainly marrying a 7 years old girl to a 80years old man. By insulting Farsiwans you won´t reach anything. Instead come and work with us together. You can not survive. You can wisha nd believe what you want at the end you will die again and again. I am your brother and want to gove you my hand to fight with us against the evil. Farsiwans or Tajiks fought always for Islam, God and Qoran. It were mostly non-Tajiks who mislead Qoran, Islam and used it for their own goals. History is my witness. Ancestors of Tajiks were even part in the army of Saladin and Alp Arslan fighting the crusaders. Your herors and Mujaheddins did not even fight against infidels during the soviets how do you want to fight now? Right now, you still kill just yourself. Kidnappe Pashtun men, shop keepers, school pupils... believe me, the people prepare themself for Taliban and Pakistan. They can come. But I will see you on the battlefield too..instead sitting like a coward behind your PC and swearing .. the future is ours... you can either join us or die. It´s your choice and don´t believe Islam will support you this time. God does not care about you. The current situation is just a punishment... toba toba Khodaya ... Qayamat nazdik ast...

[Toramana]

Your portrayal is not exactly true; there are Uzbek and Tajik Muslims who want a unified Islamic Society, most of the Islamic Movements of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan support other Muslims regardless of ethnic group.

Hay SE, da Yimin na pa khair raghlai...pa Yimin kai mosam sanga woo....?

But those Muslims are only a very very very tiny minority...mostly extremists. Summer job sanga rawan dai?