Who is more dangerous for Pashtuns: Tajiks or Panjabis

[Fahd]

Thers different levels of Liberalism.

and u showed me how is ur Liberalism very weak and cant be changed . evry one will choose the level they like so what u gona do there ? LOL
islam have one way and no one cant change it

isnt so stupid when u follow liberalism system that humen created while u Rejects islam and god way in life and evrything ?

[faye]

don't get hysterical manzareh. yes i do realise how women are sometimes used and abused. it is also done in countries where women are covered. i have been a woman in the east and the west and it is so annoying to see this assumption that women do everything to attract men. i don't know where you live but i know thousands of women through my life who dress how they like, for themselves, not for men.
i also don't like women being used in ads atc as sexual objects so don't assume.
women are educated where i live but for some reason they are still choosing to be victims and are down on themselves.
this is also annoying to see as they have a choice to not be that, with the freedom to choose.
are you saying muslim men don't go swimming without shirts and in bathers, because i have seen differently.

[Alchemist]

para·noia definition

Pronunciation: /ˌpar-ə-ˈnȯi-ə/
Function: n
1 : a psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of persecution or grandeur usually without hallucinations

2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others


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[KingKhan]

para·noia definition

Pronunciation: /ˌpar-ə-ˈnȯi-ə/
Function: n
1 : a psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of persecution or grandeur usually without hallucinations

2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others


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This coming from a non-Pashtun Parsiwans. Aren't you happy your peoples silently taken over Afghanistan.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

This son of a b-i-t-c-h killer of Pashtuns and failure in life as well as a mass murderer and torturer is an example of one threat. But he is not a archetype or a typical example. Note how much his rhetoric resembles that of others we have encountered to a "t"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...bbottabad-lead

Afghan intelligence believed Osama bin Laden was hiding in an area close to Abbottabad four years ago – but no action was taken after the claim was furiously rejected by Pakistan's president, Afghanistan's former intelligence chief has said.
Agents working for the National Directorate of Security (NDS), the country's intelligence service, worked out that the world's most wanted man must be inside Pakistan proper, rather than the semi-autonomous tribal areas, as early in 2004, Amrullah Saleh told the Guardian.
He said they believed Bin Laden must be there based on "thousands of interrogation reports" and the assumption that Osama – "a millionaire with multiple wives and no background of toughness" – would not be living in a tent.
"I was pretty sure he was in the settled areas of Pakistan because in 2005 it was still very easy to infiltrate the tribal areas, and we had massive numbers of informants there," he said. "They could find any Arab but notBin Laden."
Their intelligence became more precise in 2007 when they believed he was hiding in Manshera, a town a short distance from Abbottabad where the NDS had identified two al-Qaida safe houses.
But the former spy chief said that Pervez Musharraf, then president of Pakistan, was outraged at the suggestion that Bin Laden was hiding in such a prominent part of the country.
In a meeting with Musharraf and Hamid Karzai the Pakistani president became furious and smashed his fist down on the table. "He said, 'Am I the president of the Republic of Banana?'" Saleh recalled. "Then he turned to President Karzai and said, 'Why have you have brought this Panjshiri guy to teach me intelligence?'"
He said Karzai had to intervene as Musharraf got increasingly angry and began to physically threaten Saleh.
Afghanistan's former top spy – who has long been a hate figure in Islamabad among officials who believed he was implacably anti-Pakistani – also said he had no doubts that Mullah Omar, the leader of the Taliban movement, was hiding in a safe house owned by the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), the Pakistani spy agency, in the city of Karachi.
"He is protected by ISI, General Pasha [Lieutenant-General Ahmad Shuja Pasha, director-general of the ISI] knows as I am talking to you where is Mullah Omar and he keeps daily briefs from his officers about the location of senior Taliban leaders, simple," he said.
Saleh was speaking to the Guardian soon after addressing a rally of several thousand Afghans in Kabul organised as a show of strength of what he called Afghanistan's "anti-Taliban constituency" who are alarmed at the prospect of peace talks with insurgents.
The killing of Bin Laden, who was sheltered by the Taliban regime in the 1990s, has prompted heady speculation that an "end game" to the 10-year conflict is now at hand, with the Afghan government and the Taliban-led insurgency striking a deal.
But "deal making" were dirty words to the crowd gathered in a huge tent in Kabul lined with banners saying "We didn't vote for Karzai to make deals" and "Don't sacrifice justice for dealing".
Speeches were interrupted several times by chants from the crowd of "Death to the Taliban! Death to the suicide bombers! Death to the Punjabis!" – a reference to the protesters' view that the Taliban are under the control of the ISI.
Saleh is a burly and comparatively young man who earned the respect of the CIA during his sometimes brutal leadership of Afghanistan's intelligence service. He received a rapturous reception from the flag-waving crowd when he marched into the tent
Saleh lambasted Karzai for calling the Taliban disaffected "brothers".
"They are not my brother, they are not your brother – those are our enemies," he declared, to cheers.
Saleh warned the government that his movement would not remain content with peaceful demonstrations if Karzai did not change course. Later he told the Guardian that if Karzai "sold out in order to bring the Taliban" there would be no choice but to "rise up".
"We have been exposed to a lot of weapons, it is not very difficult to resort to fighting and create influence," he said.

[khyaal]

para·noia definition

Pronunciation: /ˌpar-ə-ˈnȯi-ə/
Function: n
1 : a psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of persecution or grandeur usually without hallucinations

2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others


Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2007 Merriam-Webster, Inc.
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Don't much care about them, they are mostly Pakis pretending to be Pashtuns of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. We know them well, they are generally from Paki defence forum.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Islamic and Liberal does not mix well.

But would you like to wake up to seeing Pashtun women tied in black burqas and isolated in their homes?

If your raised to respect women then you would not be so weak to go crazy over a bikini.

A bikini is just a piece of clothing, but yes I agree liberalism should be moderated.

If you had respect for women to begin with, you wouldn't want them degraded in bikinis

burqas are also pieces of clothing, but the difference is, burqa isnt a tool to exploit women's bodies, the bikini is.

[ghundal]

Saleh: "We have been exposed to a lot of weapons, it is not very difficult to resort to fighting and create influence," he said.

So he is threatening civil war because he doesn't want peace and reconciliation. The foreign presence is the barrier to peace and reconciliation.

[Azmal]

Neither as a whole in regard to the people themselves. Everyone is poor as crap just trying to survive. The Panjab and Tajik leadership though, in the forms of Mr. Spanta and Mr. Altaaf Hossein are equally dangerous. The conflicts between the people themselves are based on natural distrust that exists between different ethnic groups squeezed together into relatively close confines. What usually creates trouble is that the leadership will execute some sort of attack that will result in mass casulties on the other side (e.g. the initial assault on the Taliban at Mazar) and in response, the offended will execute brutal unwarranted retribution (when Taliban took Mazar).

Here we go again… Abdal the talking paki mule who “don’t give a sh.t about Afghansitan” is trying to places the burden of guilt of brown-butted Punjos on the victims i.e. Pashtons and Mahjar. This is a diabolic tactical move by a Ali Zena lover(read his praising of a Fathan.. companion of British agent, alcohol drinking, pork eating ali zena.) trying to put sand in our eyes….claiming Mahjar Altaf as Punjabi and Pashton Spanta (yes father Pashton/mother Herati) as Tajik…the same nationalist Spanta that stood tall and openly called Massod a thug warlords in face of Fahim, Qanoni and AbdullahX during Shayed Mahmodi death anniversary in 2003…but hay lets not upset the lying paki.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Here we go again… Abdal the talking paki mule who “don’t give a sh.t about Afghansitan” is trying to places the burden of guilt of brown-butted Punjos on the victims i.e. Pashtons and Mahjar. This is a diabolic tactical move by a Ali Zena lover(read his praising of a Fathan.. companion of British agent, alcohol drinking, pork eating ali zena.) trying to put sand in our eyes….claiming Mahjar Altaf as Punjabi and Pashton Spanta (yes father Pashton/mother Herati) as Tajik…the same nationalist Spanta that stood tall and openly called Massod a thug warlords in face of Fahim, Qanoni and AbdullahX during Shayed Mahmodi death anniversary in 2003…but hay lets not upset the lying paki.

Here we go again Azmal, the motherless actual descendent of a Panjabi slave from Lahore's one night stand with Telai (supposedly) attempting to show that he is not actually a farsiban 100% made in Kabul or farther North (which Mr Spanta actually is).

Azmal, which one on the list was your grandma loool, you know the one that is the real paki panjo female mule... but that you mistook as Laghmani? And do say hi to cousin Gavin for me:

m. (first) Maryam Begum, Bobo Jahan-i-Qal'a-i-Hazara (d.s.p.), daughter of Sardar Faqir Muhammad Khan, a Barakzai. m. (second) Bibi Walida Jahan (d. March 1915), daughter of Mir Jahandar Shah, Uzbek Mir of Badarkhshan. m. (third) ca. 1865, a daughter of H.H. Amir ul-Muminim Sayyid Amir Muzaffar ud-din 'Abdul Khan Bahadur Sultan, Amir of Bokhara. m. (fourth) 1875, after the birth of her sons, Asal Begum, previously Gulraz Bibi, a former slave-girl from Wakhan and Samarkand. m. (fifth) at Kabul, 22nd November 1880, Bibi Halima, Bobo Jahan-i-Jaghadar Begum (d. at Kabul, 1925), his Chief wife, daughter of Sayyid Mir Atiqu'llah Khan, by his wife, Shams-i-Jahan Begum, eldest daughter of H.H. Amir al-Mumenin, Amir-i-Kabir, Amir Dost Muhammad Khan, Amir of Afghanistan. m. (sixth) before 1882, a daughter of Mir Hakim Khan, Nizam ud-Daula, Mir of Shibarghan. m. (seventh) Safura Begum [Bibi Staro], a Chitrali lady. m. (eighth) Padshah Begum, daughter of a Mazari Sayyid from Balkh. m. (ninth) Bibi Gulraz II, a Kohlabi consort from Gulistani. m. (tenth) Bibi Zahara, a Shighani consort. m. (eleventh) Sajida Begum (d.s.p.), eldest daughter of Mir Muhammad 'Ali Khan Yaftali, of Badakhshan. m. (twelfth) a Kohlabi consort. m. (thirteenth) Bibi Nekadam (d. ca. 1886), a Chitrali consort. m. (thirteenth) a daughter of Muhammad Husain Khan Ming, of Maimana.

http://www.royalark.net/Afghanistan/barak12.htm

[Alchemist]

Here we go again Azmal, the motherless actual descendent of a Panjabi slave from Lahore's one night stand with Telai (supposedly) attempting to show that he is not actually a farsiban 100% made in Kabul or farther North (which Mr Spanta actually is).

Azmal, which one on the list was your grandma loool, you know the one that is the real paki panjo female mule... but that you mistook as Laghmani? And do say hi to cousin Gavin for me:

m. (first) Maryam Begum, Bobo Jahan-i-Qal'a-i-Hazara (d.s.p.), daughter of Sardar Faqir Muhammad Khan, a Barakzai. m. (second) Bibi Walida Jahan (d. March 1915), daughter of Mir Jahandar Shah, Uzbek Mir of Badarkhshan. m. (third) ca. 1865, a daughter of H.H. Amir ul-Muminim Sayyid Amir Muzaffar ud-din 'Abdul Khan Bahadur Sultan, Amir of Bokhara. m. (fourth) 1875, after the birth of her sons, Asal Begum, previously Gulraz Bibi, a former slave-girl from Wakhan and Samarkand. m. (fifth) at Kabul, 22nd November 1880, Bibi Halima, Bobo Jahan-i-Jaghadar Begum (d. at Kabul, 1925), his Chief wife, daughter of Sayyid Mir Atiqu'llah Khan, by his wife, Shams-i-Jahan Begum, eldest daughter of H.H. Amir al-Mumenin, Amir-i-Kabir, Amir Dost Muhammad Khan, Amir of Afghanistan. m. (sixth) before 1882, a daughter of Mir Hakim Khan, Nizam ud-Daula, Mir of Shibarghan. m. (seventh) Safura Begum [Bibi Staro], a Chitrali lady. m. (eighth) Padshah Begum, daughter of a Mazari Sayyid from Balkh. m. (ninth) Bibi Gulraz II, a Kohlabi consort from Gulistani. m. (tenth) Bibi Zahara, a Shighani consort. m. (eleventh) Sajida Begum (d.s.p.), eldest daughter of Mir Muhammad 'Ali Khan Yaftali, of Badakhshan. m. (twelfth) a Kohlabi consort. m. (thirteenth) Bibi Nekadam (d. ca. 1886), a Chitrali consort. m. (thirteenth) a daughter of Muhammad Husain Khan Ming, of Maimana.

http://www.royalark.net/Afghanistan/barak12.htm

I don't really get the history between you and Azmal but this "yo-mommaa hoe" come back is in poor taste.


And yes KingKhan, we have "taken over" afghanistan

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I don't really get the history between you and Azmal but this "yo-mommaa hoe" come back is in poor taste.


And yes KingKhan, we have "taken over" afghanistan

Its not an insult to his great great great grandmother. He has consistently made racist remarks against Panjabis. Im fine with that... however, what he did was claim descent through AbdurRahman the Iron Amir and a Yusufzai Slave girl (doesnt exist on the list as you can see) and and from the incompetent, corrupt, and inept Sultan Muhammad Telai through a Laghmani slave. That also turned out to be wrong as well. The Zikria branch descends from Sultan Muhammad taking a local slave girl from the Peshawar confines, probably Hindkoh.

My point to him is that he is very Hitlerian... on the one hand hating Pakistanis and Panjabis... yet more intertwined with their DNA than he would care to admit. Others he has called Pakistani, have no such links.

So it is not an insult to his mother... its an insult that makes his own racist insult hurl back on himself.

[khashayar]

lol

[faye]

If you had respect for women to begin with, you wouldn't want them degraded in bikinis

burqas are also pieces of clothing, but the difference is, burqa isnt a tool to exploit women's bodies, the bikini is.

not everyone has an issue with the human form and consider the sight or showing of it degrading. if one is from a society, say in new guinea, andamans, australia, america, germany etc. showing of body doesn't have to be degradation. that is a personal prejudice.

[ComradePashtun]

By the way, just for readers' information, Spanta the head of naitonal security council is a Pashtun from Herat and a Barakzai.