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I wonder if any Afghan here will disclose that they celebrate Christmas, I cannot speak for others here. To answer the question, no I don't consciously celebrate this freaking pagan ritual. I find it ironic how Christmas is celebrated on the 24th Dec. by Catholics and their denominations and then on Jan7th by orientals and orthodox. Now having said that I enjoy Christmas lights and everything about it. Brings out the cheerful mood and holiday deals. Someone gave me a "Christmas/holiday gift" knowing that I do not celebrate Christmas, I accepted it, because why not? Where I live, we have afghans here who celebrate the spirit of Christmas, they necessarily don't lit up their homes and shops. They just follow the spirit I suppose. Tolerance is a powerful tool.Last edited by sterge; 12-24-2016, 04:43 PM.
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Nope, never. I have my faith and my culture to guide me.
When I was in the west, I met many Muslims who exchanged christmas cards, greetings, and few even erected trees and hung baubels and tinsel, in order to INTEGRATE into their new home.
Shame; because in doing so these Muslims where Superficially supporting 'being happy with them' but conceding to the meaning of the tree, the concept of christ, and related matters, in guise of integration.
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What is wrong with Pagan celebrations? We celebrate Nawruz, we name our children after non-Arabic names from the yahilia time. We have plenty of pre-islamic traditions.. your Pashtunwali is a non-Islamic code (I do agree its heavily influenced by Islamic values but still its not Islamic per se). So I can't understand why you guys want to reject all the rich pre-Abrahamic traditions around the world.Originally posted by sterge View PostI wonder if any Afghan here will disclose that they celebrate Christmas, I cannot speak for others here. To answer the question, no I don't consciously celebrate this freaking pagan ritual. I find it ironic how Christmas is celebrated on the 24th Dec. by Catholics and their denominations and then on Jan7th by orientals and orthodox. Now having said that I enjoy Christmas lights and everything about it. Brings out the cheerful mood and holiday deals. Someone gave me a "Christmas/holiday gift" knowing that I do not celebrate Christmas, I accepted it, because why not? Where I live, we have afghans here who celebrate the spirit of Christmas, they necessarily don't lit up their homes and shops. They just follow the spirit I suppose. Tolerance is a powerful tool."For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
-Ferdowsi.
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There is something I really can't understand/stand about Muslims living in the West. Muslims in Europe enjoy Western way of life, they love having intercourse with kaffir girls, we drink their water, we eat their food, we drive their cars, we use their technology, we take their money, we wear their clothes.. but suddenly when it comes to Christmas Muslims get so cranky.
I find this very hypocrite. Double standards at its finest."For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
-Ferdowsi.
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Take their money?? Eat their food?? I thought people worked for the money they made and the food they ate. You people eat for free in Europe??
I know of lots of white or black peoples who are not religious but participate in these traditions and not only because they are shallow. What I have noticed is that they don't need to be die hard believers in something in order to enjoy it the way Muslims are. If Muslims are not willing to die for something, they don't want to have anything to do with it.
I have an Afghan friend who wants to have a Christmas tree for her kids because she doesn't want them feeling excluded from the society that they are living in. I don't judge her for it but I will not be doing that for my kids. My kids need to know that there is a difference between them and "westerners" and if as a parent you have made your mind about instilling that idea in their minds, there is no point of confusing them with mixed ideas otherwise. Having said that, they will not be narrow minded bigots who would mock or judge others for choosing otherwise. They can participate with their friends and at school but we are not going out of our way to celebrate that stuff at home.
Oh, and if you want to celebrate Christmas, it's less hypocritical to do so for reasons other than justifying eating other people's food, taking their money or fornicating with their women.
"To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."
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why you not celebrate the christmas?Originally posted by torkham View PostNope, never. I have my faith and my culture to guide me.
When I was in the west, I met many Muslims who exchanged christmas cards, greetings, and few even erected trees and hung baubels and tinsel, in order to INTEGRATE into their new home.
Shame; because in doing so these Muslims where Superficially supporting 'being happy with them' but conceding to the meaning of the tree, the concept of christ, and related matters, in guise of integration.
haha you celebrate all things arabian. or you think islam came from Kabul?
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Dont be a fool and stop twisting my words. By taking money or eating food I mean Muslims don't hesitate to live in the West, accepting the facto their ways, many of them even are on the governments "payroll".Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View PostTake their money?? Eat their food?? I thought people worked for the money they made and the food they ate. You people eat for free in Europe??
I know of lots of white or black peoples who are not religious but participate in these traditions and not only because they are shallow. What I have noticed is that they don't need to be die hard believers in something in order to enjoy it the way Muslims are. If Muslims are not willing to die for something, they don't want to have anything to do with it.
I have an Afghan friend who wants to have a Christmas tree for her kids because she doesn't want them feeling excluded from the society that they are living in. I don't judge her for it but I will not be doing that for my kids. My kids need to know that there is a difference between them and "westerners" and if as a parent you have made your mind about instilling that idea in their minds, there is no point of confusing them with mixed ideas otherwise. Having said that, they will not be narrow minded bigots who would mock or judge others for choosing otherwise. They can participate with their friends and at school but we are not going out of our way to celebrate that stuff at home.
Oh, and if you want to celebrate Christmas, it's less hypocritical to do so for reasons other than justifying eating other people's food, taking their money or fornicating with their women."For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
-Ferdowsi.
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Their water food money clothes and cars.. No thanks I have my own.Originally posted by Firdousi View PostThere is something I really can't understand/stand about Muslims living in the West. Muslims in Europe enjoy Western way of life, they love having intercourse with kaffir girls, we drink their water, we eat their food, we drive their cars, we use their technology, we take their money, we wear their clothes.. but suddenly when it comes to Christmas Muslims get so cranky.
I find this very hypocrite. Double standards at its finest.----------
*You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*
Originally posted by Karachilike I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here
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