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  • #61
    Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
    Few days ago, [MENTION=17954]kanishka[/MENTION]Despite being an extremely nationalist ethnic group (Pashtuns are much more nationalists than Tajiks. Ethnic nationalism is almost inexistent among Tajiks. Modern Tajik nationalism is more an online phenomenon) Pashtuns seems to be extremely violent and frustrated peop

    50% of Pashtuns from Afghanistan are Persianized or think there is more pride in being a Farsiwan or Dari speaker. I lived in Europe, Australia/New-zealand, Canada and United States and maybe South Africa and the AFghan Pashtun community lean so much towards Dari/Tajik/Persian culture and mix freely with the Farsiwan Kabulis/Herati setting. They sharing their "attan dance" with Hazaras and Tajiks

    95% of the Pashtuns in PAkitan are the opposite of that...... they are the extreme opposite of nationalist. They are anti-nationalist. They are ****, backwards people who like to kiss the toe of their Punjabi/Mohajir masters, and the only way for a Pashtun to become free is the sacrifice his pashto language and culture and become Punjabized , Urdutized, Indianized or Desified... The MAJORITY of Pashtuns support Imran Khan and Tahir Ul Qadri, no support for the nationalists what so ever. They are now saying Shukria and Allah pa man instead of Der manana and Khudai (not intending to attack Islam), giving their kids Turkish/Arabic/Farsi names instead of Pashto names.

    Mahmood Achakzai and Wali Khan have been flushed down the toilet. Pashtunistan is History.....

    the only Pure Pashtuns that will preserve their culture and way of life will be the Kalash tribe , and they're not even Pashtun, but i consider them the most likely ancestor of Pashtuns, as well as ancestors of Punjabis, Tajiks and the rest of the Indo-Iranian races ....

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    • #62
      Originally posted by kanishka View Post
      50% of Pashtuns from Afghanistan are Persianized or think there is more pride in being a Farsiwan or Dari speaker. I lived in Europe, Australia/New-zealand, Canada and United States and maybe South Africa and the AFghan Pashtun community lean so much towards Dari/Tajik/Persian culture and mix freely with the Farsiwan Kabulis/Herati setting. They sharing their "attan dance" with Hazaras and Tajiks

      95% of the Pashtuns in PAkitan are the opposite of that...... they are the extreme opposite of nationalist. They are anti-nationalist. They are ****, backwards people who like to kiss the toe of their Punjabi/Mohajir masters, and the only way for a Pashtun to become free is the sacrifice his pashto language and culture and become Punjabized , Urdutized, Indianized or Desified... The MAJORITY of Pashtuns support Imran Khan and Tahir Ul Qadri, no support for the nationalists what so ever. They are now saying Shukria and Allah pa man instead of Der manana and Khudai (not intending to attack Islam), giving their kids Turkish/Arabic/Farsi names instead of Pashto names.

      Mahmood Achakzai and Wali Khan have been flushed down the toilet. Pashtunistan is History.....

      the only Pure Pashtuns that will preserve their culture and way of life will be the Kalash tribe , and they're not even Pashtun, but i consider them the most likely ancestor of Pashtuns, as well as ancestors of Punjabis, Tajiks and the rest of the Indo-Iranian races ....
      Pashtunistan is not even history.... because it has never even begun.....

      sure, consider Mir Wais Hotak and Ahmad Durrani as the start of Pashtunistan but still......

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
        Few days ago, [MENTION=17954]kanishka[/MENTION] posted a new thread named "Pashtun culture sucks". We see on this and other forums Pashtuns bashing and insulting each other on a regular basis Even in Afghanistan Pashtuns are killing each other (this is not something new. Pashtuns have been killing each other for a long time now). Despite being an extremely nationalist ethnic group (Pashtuns are much more nationalists than Tajiks. Ethnic nationalism is almost inexistent among Tajiks. Modern Tajik nationalism is more an online phenomenon) Pashtuns seems to be extremely violent and frustrated people.

        So my question is "why Pashtuns hate so much each other and other ethnicities?" Why all this hatred and frustration? Such anger is not common among non Pashtuns in Afghanistan.. why?

        As a Herati I must say I have never heard other Heratis hating so much on other nations or ethnic groups (except Pakistan. Tajiks hate that country more than any other people). There is some sort of "rejection" toward Kabulies because according Herati standards they are too liberal and kinda "luchak". But not real hatred. So why Pashtuns tend to be so hateful?
        If Tajiks hate "that" country, why is it that there are sizable Afghan Tajiks in cities like Islamabad? I met an Afghan Tajik (owner of some halal meat shop around where I live), who was supposedly from Herat but his whole family resided in Islamabad. You make its sound like Afghan Tajiks have no dirt on them, da heck! He seemed to have presumptions on how Pashtuns SHOULD look etc, I guess me not wearing a Hijab means I am no Pashtun. He also told me how Pashtuns have destroyed Afghanistan, mkay, says the person who carried a Pakistani passport. I guess I can say you Tajiks are equally racist as many Pashtuns you are referring to. You seem to forget how you guys have clash with turkomen, qizilbash, hazaras etc. You need to get over the high horse, you are equally the cause of the problem like your next door Pashtun. If Iranians did not have power in your region esp. the city, you would have ethnic clash all the time. You can say Herat is a puppet of Iran, that's why its fairly stable compared to other parts of Afghanistan.

        If you genuinely want to solve the ISSUE, you should look at the bigger picture instead of blaming racism on one group and ignoring their hamsayas. Your Northern Alliance government promotes Racism and child and female abuse, basically no different than ****ing Taliban(at least they banned bacha bazi).
        Tajik does not equal the super "mannered" Swedes and Pashtuns: some Alabama hillbillies from 1940s.
        Last edited by sterge; 12-24-2016, 01:50 AM.

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        • #64
          This is a shallow assumption, to see two people of the same ethnicity swearing or fighting each other?? As if to say it's humanly possible for people of the same ethnicity to never go against each other lol. Whoever you are, whatever your God sent ethnicity is, in your society you kill each other, things like murders exist, theives and general crime against your own people do happen. With that logic it's safe to say everyone hates themselves. I see Arabs fighting other Arabs, whites fighting each other and stabbing each other in the back, blacks yellows Browns whoever it's human nature.
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          like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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          • #65
            Firdowsi is a frustrated individual who blames all his shortcomings in life on pashtuns rather than his own baighrat warlords who are mostly out of the closet pedophiles.

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            • #66
              Pashtuns don't hate each other. In fact, from my fellow Pashtuns I feel nothing but love and hospitality. Our culture teaches us to be kind, respectful, and courteous.

              This thread is a generalization, and what you want to feel, but it is not in touch with ground reality.

              Show me a single source that has conducted research which shows Pashtuns hate each other. Please don't make such assumptions; it's unwelcoming, and wrong.
              Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

              A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

              For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


              The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

              -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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              • #67
                Originally posted by khushal View Post
                Firdowsi is a frustrated individual who blames all his shortcomings in life on pashtuns rather than his own baighrat warlords who are mostly out of the closet pedophiles.
                You are hurting me, bro. Please, stop it lol
                "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                -Ferdowsi.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                  Pashtuns don't hate each other. In fact, from my fellow Pashtuns I feel nothing but love and hospitality. Our culture teaches us to be kind, respectful, and courteous.

                  This thread is a generalization, and what you want to feel, but it is not in touch with ground reality.

                  Show me a single source that has conducted research which shows Pashtuns hate each other. Please don't make such assumptions; it's unwelcoming, and wrong.
                  Yeah, you are right. I was wrong. Thats why I apologized for this pointless thread.

                  Once again, I am sorry.
                  "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                  I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                  -Ferdowsi.

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                  • #69
                    People here need to lighten up. It's obvious Firdousi is just pushing buttons.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post
                      People here need to lighten up. It's obvious Firdousi is just pushing buttons.
                      He is revealing his own inferiority complex. Pashtun this, Pashtun that while pedophile tajik warlords are warriors with superior culture. Only people that feel inferior and small inside say these things.

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