6 women kidnapped, 4 raped every day in 2014

[tilla_jogian]

http://www.dawn.com/news/224063/bann...iver-shot-dead

Bannu DIG, driver shot dead

PESHAWAR, Dec 18: DIG Police Bannu Abid Ali was shot dead, along with his driver, near here on Monday night. According to a security official, the DIG was on his way to Peshawar. When the car he was travelling in reached Matani in Peshawar district around 11:45pm, unidentified gunmen fired a volley of bullets at it. As a result, the DIG and his driver died on the spot.

“The incident looks like targeted killing,” said the official.

Before being promoted as DIG, Mr Ali had served as SSP Kohat and SSP Peshawar.

Well done to Abid Ali for sacrificing his life like that, if he would have been corrupt then probably still alive by now.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Well done to Abid Ali for sacrificing his life like that, if he would have been corrupt then probably still alive by now.

See that's what differs Pashtuns from Punjabis, for a Punjabi being virtuous is raping a woman with a bunch of your friends to "punish" her for not accepting your advances. Where for Pashtuns that is corrupt. For a Punjabi killing a rapist is corrupt. It's a total reversal of values.

[Toramana]

Mr. tilla these are Punjab crimes statistics up to March. Other detail can be seen on the link below. Rapes 538, gang rape 46.

http://punjabpolice.gov.pk/crimesstatistics

Crimes Against Person in 2015 (upto March) Top
Offence Registered Cancelled Challaned Untraced Under Investigation
Murder 1028 30 523 2 473
Attempted Murder 1121 43 586 11 481
Hurt 2867 118 1821 3 925
Kidnapping/Abduction 3025 1063 808 1 1153
Kidnapping/Ransom 19 0 13 0 6
Rape 538 90 283 0 165
Gang Rape 46 4 27 0 15
Other 1707 70 1181 21 435
Total 10351 1418 5242 38 3653

[tilla_jogian]

See that's what differs Pashtuns from Punjabis, for a Punjabi being virtuous is raping a woman with a bunch of your friends to "punish" her for not accepting your advances. Where for Pashtuns that is corrupt. For a Punjabi killing a rapist is corrupt. It's a total reversal of values.

eh? What was this then?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-14-years.html

Part of afghani culture.

http://www.whyileftsweden.com/?p=411

Please don't embarass yourself, you yourself rape victim which you never reported.

See afghani culture being given as valid excuse for rape.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgr...cuse-for-rape/

https://midnightwatcher.wordpress.co...rape-epidemic/

Afghani refugees in Europe are famous for gang rapes because its part of their culture and not considered rape.

And I am not even posting rapes which happen on daily basis, and most afghani women refugee in camps are pregnant because of rapes.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

eh? What was this then?

none of these examples are of Pashtuns; Pashtuns don't share the same culture as Tajiks, Uzbeks or Hazaras or other ethnicities in Afghanistan.

so none of these examples would be even relevant to us. Afghanistan is an ethic mosaic so not everyone has the same same culture. Just like Pashtuns of KPK don't have the same culture as Punjabi. KPK Pashtuns are closer to their Afghan Pastuns.

[tilla_jogian]

none of these examples are of Pashtuns; Pashtuns don't share the same culture as Tajiks, Uzbeks or Hazaras or other ethnicities in Afghanistan.

so none of these examples would be even relevant to us. Afghanistan is an ethic mosaic so not everyone has the same same culture. Just like Pashtuns of KPK don't have the same culture as Punjabi. KPK Pashtuns are closer to their Afghan Pastuns.

Everyone of them was afghani pashtun, but gang rape is part of larger afghani culture anyway. But europeans were shocked when they started to gang rape white women while living in refugee camps. One will rape and other will clap and sing ***** *****. Your culture is very primitive without any law and order this should have been expected.

Lets not even talk about child rape, because then you will cry about getting personal. This subject is indeed personal for 99% of afghanis because they at one point have been victims and in other point rapist.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Everyone of them was afghani pashtun, but gang rape is part of larger afghani culture anyway. But europeans were shocked when they started to gang rape white women while living in refugee camps. One will rape and other will clap and sing ***** *****. Your culture is very primitive without any law and order this should have been expected.

Lets not even talk about child rape, because then you will cry about getting personal. This subject is indeed personal for 99% of afghanis because they at one point have been victims and in other point rapist.

Where is the evidence that everyone of them was Afghan Pashtun or even any of them?? None of them had Pashtun names. none even looked Pashtun. couple looked Hazara, almost all looked Tajik or Mazari

You're just grasping for anything with "Afghan" in it; because you have nothing that says Pashtun to fight back with when we have tons of stuff about Punjabis.

[tilla_jogian]

Where is the evidence that everyone of them was Afghan Pashtun or even any of them?? None of them had Pashtun names. none even looked Pashtun. couple looked Hazara, almost all looked Tajik or Mazari

You're just grasping for anything with "Afghan" in it; because you have nothing that says Pashtun to fight back with when we have tons of stuff about Punjabis.

All looked typical afghani pashtuns, you are either blind or making up stuff. But news are real. UN report about rapes in afghani women camps are real. Internet is filled by stuff you guys do to time pass, from raping animals to little boys all in the name of stone age tribal culture. We also have lots of stuff on afghanis, just 1 google search away.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

All looked typical afghani pashtuns, you are either blind or making up stuff. But news are real. UN report about rapes in afghani women camps are real. Internet is filled by stuff you guys do to time pass, from raping animals to little boys all in the name of stone age tribal culture. We also have lots of stuff on afghanis, just 1 google search away.

They don't look Pashtun to me; some of them have Oriental eyes or have cherub faces instead of stern ones. Pashtuns tend to look very rugged and stern,not cherub. Since you have no clarification on whether they are Pashtun, these citations can't count.

Which confirms my point; you have no ammo against Pashtuns. It's data that counts and as of yet the data points to Punjabis having 1408 cases, where as KPK has much lower and FATA pure Pashtun area, even lower. Confirming Pashtuns don't have a rapist culture where as Punjabis do.

[tilla_jogian]

They don't look Pashtun to me; some of them have Oriental eyes or have cherub faces instead of stern ones. Pashtuns tend to look very rugged and stern,not cherub. Since you have no clarification on whether they are Pashtun, these citations can't count.

Which confirms my point; you have no ammo against Pashtuns. It's data that counts and as of yet the data points to Punjabis having 1408 cases, where as KPK has much lower and FATA pure Pashtun area, even lower. Confirming Pashtuns don't have a rapist culture where as Punjabis do.

Not really, they look like afghani pashtuns. It all make sense at the end because after so much mixing it gets complicated to differentiate like that. To report cases one need to have some police force, society where concept of rape is clear. That day may never come for afghanis like you but that doesn't mean rape don't happen.

Most rapes are reported in western countries, they are much more civilized then primitive afghanis. Now you will say afghani women in Pakistan refugee camps in KPK are not pashtuns but hazaras/tajiks as well. Afghanis in general have similar rape culture, but they don't consider rape as long as they are raping others.

Afghani Hazaras will rape pashtuns but will not consider it rape, afghani pashtuns will rape tajiks and will not consider it as rape. Afghanis rape kids but this is again not rape. All those documentaries are false and propaganda.

From your pov what is normal behavior is considered rape in civilized societies.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Not really, they look like afghani pashtuns. It all make sense at the end because after so much mixing it gets complicated to differentiate like that. To report cases one need to have some police force, society where concept of rape is clear. That day may never come for afghanis like you but that doesn't mean rape don't happen.

Most rapes are reported in western countries, they are much more civilized then primitive afghanis. Now you will say afghani women in Pakistan refugee camps in KPK are not pashtuns but hazaras/tajiks as well. Afghanis in general have similar rape culture, but they don't consider rape as long as they are raping others.

Afghani Hazaras will rape pashtuns but will not consider it rape, afghani pashtuns will rape tajiks and will not consider it as rape. Afghanis rape kids but this is again not rape. All those documentaries are false and propaganda.

From your pov what is normal behavior is considered rape in civilized societies.

Clearly you want so desperately to believe that they're Pashtun because without it your argument is vacuous, but you have no evidence. Since you clearly have don't know much about Pashtun appearances and a bias due to history Punjabi resentment towards Pashtuns from KPK and otherwise for conquering Punjab.

Actually yes, in the camps it is mainly Tajiks and Hazaras, because Pashtuns speak Pashto, they can integrate more easily with the mainstream KPK Pashtuns. This is even confirmed by UNHCR. The fact that rape is used as a form of punishment in Punjab implies the normalization of rape. For Pashtuns rape is dealt with the death penalty.

[Smarty]

Rapes are absent from Tribal areas of FATA and most of the districts of KPK.....but whenever i open newspapers, the name of Swabi often pops up for incidences of rapes.....Swabians are called kacha and kamasal for a reason

http://www.pakistantribune.com.pk/5108/minor-girl-raped-murdered-swabi.html

The traditional tribal society of pashtuns is different from Swabi and rest of Peshawer valley. In Hangu you will be cornered for merely gazing at a passing woman. If the woman is abducted from your clan , it is demand of pashtunwali of every male to avenge the insult. Rapes doesnt happen in the streets and fields like Punjab. Some times females are abducted but it always cause war and blood shed. Seven years ago, a bhittani abducted two marwat girls who were hafiz-e-Quran. Marwat qaumi jirga asked bhittanis to hand over the culprits from their tribes. During these talks, the culprits killed the girls or girls committed suicide according to them. Marwat lashkar invaded border villages of Bhittanis , razing their houses and killing 80 of them. So dishonoring the girls in Pashtun society has huge consequences.....unlike punjab or districts like swabi.

Afghan refugees , will kill you if you mess with their girls. I can give you tons of examples from real life but it would be a waste of time as you, tilli-jogian, are retaliating in tit-for-tat mode for a thread against punjab and punjabis without taking into consideration the facts and realities.

[tilla_jogian]

Clearly you want so desperately to believe that they're Pashtun because without it your argument is vacuous, but you have no evidence. Since you clearly have don't know much about Pashtun appearances and a bias due to history Punjabi resentment towards Pashtuns from KPK and otherwise for conquering Punjab.

Actually yes, in the camps it is mainly Tajiks and Hazaras, because Pashtuns speak Pashto, they can integrate more easily with the mainstream KPK Pashtuns. This is even confirmed by UNHCR. The fact that rape is used as a form of punishment in Punjab implies the normalization of rape. For Pashtuns rape is dealt with the death penalty.

Again making up stuff, in other thread you posted some exemples of so called pashtun look. So looks have nothing to do with being pashtun according to your own post.

And as expected in camps they turned out to be tajiks and hazaras, these actually go to Iran and not Pakistan. And no afghani pashtuns are not integrated as well as you would like to beleve. I clearly see huge difference here between afghani pashtuns and pakistani pashtuns. One live in tents like gypsy, begging on streets etc While Pakistani pashtuns don't, one can blame poverty for that but again proves the point that integration is not happening.

Few rich ones had easy time integrating but 95% of them live like gypsy on other people land.

Rape as form of punishment only imply to Afghanistan culture in genral including pashtuns, all are primitive. Afghanis throw rape word around like its nothing, afghani mod gandool only know how to insult by involving rape. This is part of your culture no matter how much you deny it.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Ah but you said LOOKS do have to do with being Pashtun, so you contradict yourself. But the point being is that you have no idea of whether or not these people are Pashtun, so it's absolutely useless to use it as a reference. The one in camps tend to be Tajik or Hazara because they can't integrate with the rest of KPK. Pashtuns tend to not be in camps because they can integrate. You're not even Pashtun yourself so you'd have no idea anyways.

Either way my point still holds; Your claim is speculation; where as ours is based on direct concrete evidence.

[Smarty]

Rapes happen in areas where you can get away with it. A somebody who raped a 5 year old girl in Lahore and left her at hospital gate , disappeared into the crowd of city. In rural Punjab , the powerful preys on weak. Even the notorious policemen of punjab in a village, in some cases, have entered into the houses of some minor criminals and raped their women. They raped thousands of women of weak bengalis in 71. Why the same soldiers cant rape the women of tribal areas? because they are scared of consequences. A Pakistani Punjabi fauji trying to run away with a Turi girl of Parachinar, was captured on time by villagers, he was stoned to death. Pakistan's army, which has camp in Parachinar, kept silence and didnt take any action. Pashtuns have very strict honour code and customary laws, which doesnt exist in Punjab and Sindh.