Pakistani Pashtun Soldiers.

[Shayesta]

and who the hell are you? some post DJ? mixing and blending posts

That's literally all you could come up with? And I thought you were to destroy me with your so-called arguments!

do yourself a favour and do something your more capable of, maybe watching paint dry or something...

Explains the reason of your drain brain, if that's your hobby indeed.

[Bengal_Tiger]

And I agree with Bangali-Tiger as for this making-fun thing is concerned. Pashtuns are subjected to ridicule, taunts, and humuliation routinely. Most of the so-called Pashtun army officers then lose all self-respect and become more Punjabi than Punjabis themselves to show their loyalty to Punjabi bosses. Promotion to higher also depends on how much Pakistaniyath do you show and how tightly are you linked to the Punjabi elite directly or indirectly.

- Punjabis are often rude people and bully and humiliate others including Bengalis, whom they call "machlee" (fish) or "kalu" (black), so Pashtuns are just one race amongst many they try to ridicule.




- Pakistan is a state which is based on and promotes a compound Indic + Muslim identity and culture.

For any Pashtun to fit in to the army he has to adopt Indic/desi/Punjabi culture and ways.

Pashtuns are in origin an Iranic peoples by that I don't mean to imply any pan-Iranism or Farsiphone but rather they are more south-west Asian than South Asian.





- Ironically, Islamically speaking, Farsi (related to Pashto and some dialects of it apparently mutuallyintelligible to a limited extent) is considered a more "Islamic" language than the Indian-origin "Urdu".

Urdu was promoted by the British to break Indian Muslim connections to Farsi literature and the wider Muslim community.




- There are many Pashtuns you can meet who say they were formerly Pakistani nationalists and in to Pakistani nationalism before they abandoned it.





- Since this thread was started 5 years ago, there are now 1 million Pashtun refugees in FATA, their homes have been destroyed and they are being forced to sign a slavery pledge whereby their communities will be subject to collective punishment if one individual does certain actions.



Who knows what the future holds for the Muslims of Pakhtunkhwa.



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[Smarty]

A former Sipahi told me that he left army because his Punjabi officer called him names for very small reason. He couldnt bear the insults from a mouth of a "punjabay" and left army the other day. The thing is, a typical Pashtun look down upon 'punjabay' and is not even remotely intimated by "Dalkhors". But atypical ones, like those in army, speak pashto but do not have pashto in them. Their training in kakool starts from seniors bullying the new recruits, subjecting them to all kind of humiliation in the name of fooling and toughening. They are stripped of self-respect and ego, you have to hear all kind of insults and name callings from your seniors and bosses. A traditional and ghairatmand pashtun is not cut for this job.

[Smarty]

Punjabis and mohajirs usually ridicule Pashtuns behind their backs. These desis are usually scared to **** when confronted by pashtuns. I am not bragging, i am talking from personal experience and i often make visits to Punjab. The reason is that Pashtuns wont hesitate a bit in getting into physical fight on losing temper.

And i have also noticed the similar cowardice in hazarewals.........

[tilla_jogian]

A former Sipahi told me that he left army because his Punjabi officer called him names for very small reason. He couldnt bear the insults from a mouth of a "punjabay" and left army the other day. The thing is, a typical Pashtun look down upon 'punjabay' and is not even remotely intimated by "Dalkhors". But atypical ones, like those in army, speak pashto but do not have pashto in them. Their training in kakool starts from seniors bullying the new recruits, subjecting them to all kind of humiliation in the name of fooling and toughening. They are stripped of self-respect and ego, you have to hear all kind of insults and name callings from your seniors and bosses. A traditional and ghairatmand pashtun is not cut for this job.

lolz When I see afghans on donkeys collecting kachra, I feel sorry for them not intimadating. Considiring Afghans are supposed to be real pathans, so I don't need imagine rest. You guys can bully peacefull people of hazarawal and other bordering regions. But in our ilaqa your worth and reputation is lower then 2 kauri.

[tilla_jogian]

Punjabis and mohajirs usually ridicule Pashtuns behind their backs. These desis are usually scared to **** when confronted by pashtuns. I am not bragging, i am talking from personal experience and i often make visits to Punjab. The reason is that Pashtuns wont hesitate a bit in getting into physical fight on losing temper.

And i have also noticed the similar cowardice in hazarewals.........

No offence but I refuse to belive it, especially because i Have seen your photo on paklinl. You are tinku from any angle, maybe thats why you talk like this and write about pathan power. People kill here for less and you are talking about personal experience lol

[Brown Skinned Savage]

[MENTION=18057]tilla_jogian[/MENTION]

no offense but you can claim you see us as lower but remember we conquered and subjugated you as if you were rodents for centuries. I just see your angst as the trauma caused by hundreds of years of our torment and brutality against your kala ilk.

Now take your Bangali_Tranny back to Desistan with you.

[tilla_jogian]

@tilla_jogian

no offense but you can claim you see us as lower but remember we conquered and subjugated you as if you were rodents for centuries. I just see your angst as the trauma caused by hundreds of years of our torment and brutality against your kala ilk.

Now take your Bangali_Tranny back to Desistan with you.

lmfao, conquered? You guys conquered bhaiyas and bengalis, why do you think so many of them claim to be pathans? Even kami people in gujrat have more ghairat and live honourable life then afghanis on donkeys who sell daughters to highest bidder.

Brag infront of those who are in awe of you. That bengali is clearly bengali pathan, no wonder he is kissing afghan a** on this forum in every post. He is one of you. Anyway don't burn now, I was responding to luffy post in similar manner.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Lot of Punjabis too claim to be Pashtun, did you forget that Punjab was once a playground for the sons of Ahmad Shah Durrani? ....stop saying Pathan, that's not what we're called. Unless you'd like me to refer to you as Dhalkhor or Kala, which I'll gladly do.

Even till this day most of the girls who are hired mujra dancers that go up to Peshawar are Punjabi girls from Lahore. If that's not evidence of how conquered you were, what is?

[tilla_jogian]

Lot of Punjabis too claim to be Pashtun, did you forget that Punjab was once a playground for the sons of Ahmad Shah Durrani? ....stop saying Pathan, that's not what we're called. Unless you'd like me to refer to you as Dhalkhor or Kala, which I'll gladly do.

Even till this day most of the girls who are hired mujra dancers that go up to Peshawar are Punjabi girls from Lahore. If that's not evidence of how conquered you were, what is?

lol refer to me dhalkor and kala, I am proud of being one. Dhalkor because afghanis can't even afford onions so forget about meat. Lots of kala afghanis I have seen, do you call them dhakor as well? Sometimes I wonder if we are living next to Norway or hybrid nation of mongoloid central asians?

Abdali sons used to loot but they never established themselves in central punjab. We have patern here, those who have been conquered/subjeted have started to claim pathan origin in the name of assimilation. When pathans became zamindar/land owners in UP/Bihar, converted muslim rajputs started to identify as pathans.

punjabi pathans claim to be pathans, it will be hard to even find some kammi claiming pathan here. Kammi usually adopt their zamindar masters tribes when moving to cities, or even become mughals and half dozen other but not pathan because I already told you the reputation afghanis have here.

They are all real pathans, like kasuri pathans who were installed by Mughals in central punjab but later on they were moved to left bank of sutlej or Indian punjab. So most punjabi pathans here are actually migrants from Indian punjab. Personally I have never met one in Gujrat, but punjabi-pathans sure are more honourable then Afghanis no doubt.

Another fun fact, hira mandi is filled with afghani kanjris. Or they are imported from multan kanjri ada where they claim to be off lodhi pathan origin. Punjabis kanjris are from kammi background, girls from upper caste educated punjabis in cities find it hard to even get in to tv dramas let alone hera mandi. Dude your manners and life style is that of kanjars and kammi people, with beghairat tendencies to sell daughters to highest bidder. Lots of kammi people buy afghani girls to marry here.

So brag in front of bhaiyas and bengali pathans who are in awe of their cousins in Afghanistan.

I shouldn't be this blunt but afghanis need dose of reality if they can dish it out they can surly take it. No offence intented to non-abusive afghanis.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Most Afghan dishes involve meat. in fact most popular dishes in Punjab came through Afghans and other foreign invaders. But since you seemed to evade the Kala reference I'll call you Kala since skin color is more devastating for you lot. You have such a complex about it

Ok Kala it is.

Another "fun fact" last time I saw any documentary on the subject I saw only Your Kala Punjabis in the "Hira Mundi'. Beghairat tendencies seem to be the heart of Punjabi society. Your 6 paragraph essay is basically your attempt at excuse making and denial. In classical Punjab, courtesans and mujra dancers were seen as the most "revered" and highest class women you've got, that's why traditionally Pashtuns, even in Pakistan, always looked down at Punjabis as being "Dawoos" and we use Punjabi as a term of insult. Just the WORD Punjabi is an insult; that should tell you something. Selling women is normal to punjabis hence why it doesn't cause any stir.

What's hilarious about your response is how aware of your own despicable society you are, as if it's so blatant and obvious it's futile for you to even attempt to deny it.

[Adam]

oy vey

[Smarty]

They have actually made some documentaries on hera mundi (After all it is a booming business in Punjab), one can find it on youtube. There are also some TV programmes in which a team raids on their prostitution adas. And the prostitutes there are your typical punjabi babes speaking in Punjabi or punjabi accented urdu.

[khushal]

A former Sipahi told me that he left army because his Punjabi officer called him names for very small reason. He couldnt bear the insults from a mouth of a "punjabay" and left army the other day. The thing is, a typical Pashtun look down upon 'punjabay' and is not even remotely intimated by "Dalkhors". But atypical ones, like those in army, speak pashto but do not have pashto in them. Their training in kakool starts from seniors bullying the new recruits, subjecting them to all kind of humiliation in the name of fooling and toughening. They are stripped of self-respect and ego, you have to hear all kind of insults and name callings from your seniors and bosses. A traditional and ghairatmand pashtun is not cut for this job.

The US Army is the same way. They break you down and strip all dignity from you and then build you back up into an obedient donkey that will follow any order.

[khushal]

Jatt is also an insult in pashto. it is synonymous with baighyrat.