Pakistani Pashtun Soldiers.

[graveyardofempires]

What a stupid comment, ill re-write it for you:

i was countering your notion of afghanistan having more so many millions of muslims. and not everyone in afghanistan is a muslim and lets not forget the majority hypocrites.

lol just cuz your pakistan is munafiq doesnt mena afghanistan is the same.

you have a lost cause.

[rubberduck]

pashtuns are true muslims and they are being used and abused by munafiqeen of pakistan int he name of religion.

now they are killing their own brothers for these pathan janey ramzan janey types.

Its unIslamic for you to say they are true Muslims, your interpretation of a Muslim is different to mine.If Pakhtana sorted their **** out maybe they would not be in the position they are in now.

MAJORITY of Sub Asian continent Pakhtana are uneducated farmers or live off their extended family in prosperous countries. If they education their offspring and siblings maybe they would gain the stature of social able people and facilitate thought as a pose to killing each other in the name of God. It’s impossible to conquer the people as a whole, Pakhtana have been reduced to fight amongst one another.

[graveyardofempires]

Pakistan can and are able to destroy Afghanistan, despite what she looks like Pakistan is still pushing its ballistics agenda very hard.


For you to say that Afghanistan is able to destroy Pakistan is a mere illusion albeit misguided.

yeah right

Empires couldnt destroy Afghanistan let alone a little slave of one of these empires.

42 invaders with more capability cant subdue afghanistan let alone some hypocrite pakis.

pakistan can only destroy innocent pashtuns and bengalis ,but will bow down and take it from india and america.

[Toramana]

Here:

http://www.amazon.com/Pakistan-Army-Stephen-P-Cohen/dp/0520049829

"The author has really exhibited a knack of thoroughly analysing the psyche of a third world,s most important Armies, which is truly concerned not only with the external security of the country but is also vigilant of the internal foes, threatening not only the solidarity of the country but also posing a menace to it's (Army's) own position in the country.Author has shown a remarkable insight in to the subconcious thought process of the Army ,it's transformation brought about by the subsequent wars of 47,65 and finally the debacle of 71. The propensity of the national political leaders for leaning on this institution once in the quagmire of trouble, and the physical and mental approach of the Army towards the political and stratigical challenges posed by the external and enternal foes alike. "

Stephen P. Cohen is at the University of Illinois. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

[graveyardofempires]

Its unIslamic for you to say they are true Muslims, your interpretation of a Muslim is different to mine.If Pakhtana sorted their **** out maybe they would not be in the position they are in now.

MAJORITY of Sub Asian continent Pakhtana are uneducated farmers or live off their extended family in prosperous countries. If they education their offspring and siblings maybe they would gain the stature of social able people and facilitate thought as a pose to killing each other in the name of God. It’s impossible to conquer the people as a whole, Pakhtana have been reduced to fight amongst one another.

thats your point of view,
what if all us pukhtane are uneducated ,taht doesnt give you the right to come and tak eour lands.
what kidn of stupid mentality is that.
so we have to resort to speak better english and learn british laws to defend ourselves?

or do we need to give educcation to our pukhtane in urdu language so they be able to counter the whatever?

[rubberduck]

yeah right

Empires couldnt destroy Afghanistan let alone a little slave of one of these empires.

42 invaders with more capability cant subdue afghanistan let alone some hypocrite pakis.

pakistan can only destroy innocent pashtuns and bengalis ,but will bow down and take it from india and america.

People have stopped fighting on horseback buddy, Nobody draws their sword and fights. They now kick your arse from 40k ft and send in parcels via 5000lb packets.
If they wanted to remove a race it would of been done 10 years ago. The only reason they need Pakhtana is simply a proxy way with India J Somones got to help the poor *******s in Kashmir. As you kindly stated Pakhtana are easy manipulated, "Religion is the opium of the people" ( Karl Max)

I am not a pro Pakistani nor have any affiliation with the country, but simply want you to weigh up the realistic probabilities.Stop thinking with your pride and use your head.

[rubberduck]

thats your point of view,
what if all us pukhtane are uneducated ,taht doesnt give you the right to come and tak eour lands.
what kidn of stupid mentality is that.
so we have to resort to speak better english and learn british laws to defend ourselves?

or do we need to give educcation to our pukhtane in urdu language so they be able to counter the whatever?

Now your being childish, are you taking your bat and ball home?

[Lemar]

Manana Toramana,
I dont know what someone gets of posting absolutely BS

[Toramana]

People have stopped fighting on horseback buddy, Nobody draws their sword and fights. They now kick your arse from 40k ft and send in parcels via 5000lb packets.
If they wanted to remove a race it would of been done 10 years ago. The only reason they need Pakhtana is simply a proxy way with India J Somones got to help the poor *******s in Kashmir. As you kindly stated Pakhtana are easy manipulated, "Religion is the opium of the people" ( Karl Max)

I am not a pro Pakistani nor have any affiliation with the country, but simply want you to weigh up the realistic probabilities.Stop thinking with your pride and use your head.

Are you a Hazara...a Persian/Dari speaker?

[MazloomYarMasud]

Ayub Khan was not a Pashtun and neither did he speak Pushto.

Pakistan army is not 45 percent. If you want to include the Taliban into these figures then maybe yes lol!

Pakistan Army is not trusted by the Pashtun people plus the army as a whole is so badly disorganised that there is a war going on between MI and ISI lol.!

[graveyardofempires]

People have stopped fighting on horseback buddy, Nobody draws their sword and fights. They now kick your arse from 40k ft and send in parcels via 5000lb packets.
If they wanted to remove a race it would of been done 10 years ago. The only reason they need Pakhtana is simply a proxy way with India J Somones got to help the poor *******s in Kashmir. As you kindly stated Pakhtana are easy manipulated, "Religion is the opium of the people" ( Karl Max)

I am not a pro Pakistani nor have any affiliation with the country, but simply want you to weigh up the realistic probabilities.Stop thinking with your pride and use your head.

non sense

and quoting karl Marx LOL

how caome they cant defeat these lightly equiped afghans with your so called modern tech.

i think you are full of it.

[graveyardofempires]

Now your being childish, are you taking your bat and ball home?

i dont get whats your point to come here and argue about something you know nothing of.

i think you should go back to playing with your rubber duck.

[MazloomYarMasud]

non sense

and quoting karl Marx LOL

how caome they cant defeat these lightly equiped afghans with your so called modern tech.

i think you are full of it.

They couldnt defeat you because they got tired, the soviet war killed over 2 million Afghans, Soviet union could not sustain their war anymore because of economic collapse, so that is the real reason why they fled.

ISI trained,supported and equipped these same "unbeatable" Afghans with weapons and stingers.

Its funny how you praise those Proxies Jihadis on one side but hate Pakistan on the other. YOu have proven to be just a emotional kid.

Pakistan took more advantage over the Soviet war not these Warlord Terrorists who after the soviets withdrew started raping,looting, and killing their own people for others

[graveyardofempires]

They couldnt defeat you because they got tired, the soviet war killed over 2 million Afghans, Soviet union could not sustain their war anymore because of economic collapse, so that is the real reason why they fled.

ISI trained,supported and equipped these same "unbeatable" Afghans with weapons and stingers.

Its funny how you praise those Proxies Jihadis on one side but hate Pakistan on the other. YOu have proven to be just a emotional kid.

Pakistan took more advantage over the Soviet war not these Warlord Terrorists who after the soviets withdrew started raping,looting, and killing their own people for others

yeah and pakistani sisi also trained the Afghans against the british raj,waite a minute pakistani isi were on the side of british raj.
those warlord criminals were supported by america saudi arabia iran etc pakistan was just a handler of US.

[Manzareh]

Pakistani Army is pre-dominently Punjabi...i.e., more than 80% ...The rest are other ethnicities at the top Urdu-speaking Mahajrs in the officer rank followed by Pashtuns maximum 7%. The elite regiments and units of Pakistan Army are Punjabi....FFR is the only unit that is assumed to be Pashtun...but even that is not purely Pashtun although there are more Pashtuns in the FFR units compared to other units.

These FFR units are also lightly armed mostly APCs...

The only two Pashtun chiefs of staff in the history of Pakistan army have been General Gul Hassan Khan and General Waheed Kakar. Even General Waheed Kakar is not considered to be a proper Pashtun because he was bilingual in Hindko and Pashto with Hindku being his first langauge. General Ayub Khan was a Hindkuwan of Hazara. General Yahya Khan was also a Qazlbash with Persian/Hindko his first language.

Anyboy wanting to know the actual proportion of Punjabis-versus Pashtuns in Pakistan army should read "The Pakistan Army" by Stephen P. Kohen.

What an idiot to quote an auther and then lie about it at the same time. Stephen P. Cohen of the Brookings Institution and Professor Hasan Askari Rizvi of Pakistan, indicates roughly that the Pashtun representation in the army is between 15-22% among officers and between 20-25% among the regular rank-and-file despite pashtuns being only 16%..and then you say pashtuns are maximum 7%, what a clown..guess your used to gullable people here swallowing your BS as soon as it comes outa your mouth.