Baygham Khan Appreciation Thread/ Best Yusufzai award

[BarakzaiAbdali]

See this quote form the Buchanon article I posted on that other thread regarding how the Americans now view the Turks:

“The Turks are out of their lane,” said a U.S. diplomat.

http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2011/02...thout-america/

[Baygham]

It has to come from within Baygham. Dont you see that your study of human nature is deficient? and your knowledge of history is abhorrently deficient and rigged?

Look, you assume a number of things. Just as BLS saib called me out the other day, and correctly so, for assuming he fit the automaton nationalist paradigm per that credo on the Malakand website page... you do the same things to those that call for you to reason and grasp reality. The reason for this is that splitting and projection are your defense mechanisms. Everyone who disagrees or reasons against you is a shadow mercenary of the Saudi state of Mullah Omar.

You talk about a cleansing effect and make the same mistake that Toramana pointed out to Osho Saib... you assume too many things, such as a cleansing process even taking place the first place, and that this is the intention of the SuperPower.

When Hamid Karzai stated that he should have joined the Taliban a few months ago... that should have been a hint to you. When a member of the effiminate, liberal, elite (Karzai derives from this) of Afghanistan feel that something is awry or amiss, you should analyze this closely. You instead dismiss this as "Karzai Shmarzai... he's a politician just playing the game." No, he's not... he nominated Abdul Rasul Sayaaf as Parliament's head recently.

Basically, what you advocate for, and make no mistake its an advocacy, not an acceptance of some event just happening, is a secular shiariah of sorts be implemented. Yet you ignore that historically, the constitution never follows the flag, either for us or Britian. The way that things are implemented are to benefit the super power and the people develop a dangerous blow back ideology.

My closing my eyes is not going to vanish the US army from afghanistan. To me its a wind, not necessarily in the direction where I want to go, but a wind nonetheless. I can adjust my sail to harness its drift, like south korea, like japan, like germany.

I dont even know what a secular sharia is let alone advocate at. If Karzai wants to join the taliban, he is his own person and should. If USA wants to spend 100 trillion on war on Mars than I wish them good luck, hope the martians deserved what is coming their way.


I am a meaningless small raft, set adrift without my consent. I am only trying to sail to safety. If my throwing some signals into the universe (call it offerings) could guarantee a favorable wind, trust me I would be sending those signals along with the offerings. That to me is an exercise in futility and so is the exercise to guess the motives of the creator of these winds.

I am just reacting to a wind falling on the sail. I can monitor its minute to minute direction, I know it can change any moment and I will adjust the sail accordingly. If it becomes directly opposite to my destination (like in the late and early 90's), I will lower my sail and wait. Right now it is not in that complete opposite direction, so I can move ahead, slower than I may wish, but ahead. If it ever became stronger and topples my raft, than I will try to swim, wish me luck for the land does not appear to be near. I dont care if the masters of the wind are in Riyadh, washington or Islamabad. To me its a wind, to be sailed.

For now, I am on a small oppurtunistic raft, trying to survive.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

My closing my eyes is not going to vanish the US army from afghanistan. To me its a wind, not necessarily in the direction where I want to go, but a wind nonetheless. I can adjust my sail to harness its drift, like south korea, like japan, like germany.

I dont even know what a secular sharia is let alone advocate at. If Karzai wants to join the taliban, he is his own person and should. If USA wants to spend 100 trillion on war on Mars than I wish them good luck, hope the martians deserved what is coming their way.


I am a meaningless small raft, set adrift without my consent. I am only trying to sail to safety. If my throwing some signals into the universe (call it offerings) could guarantee a favorable wind, trust me I would be sending those signals along with the offerings. That to me is an exercise in futility and so is the exercise to guess the motives of the creator of these winds.

I am just reacting to a wind falling on the sail. I can monitor its minute to minute direction, I know it can change any moment and I will adjust the sail accordingly. If it becomes directly opposite to my destination (like in the late and early 90's), I will lower my sail and wait. Right now it is not in that direction, so I can move ahead. If it ever became even stronger and topples my raft, than I will try to swim, wish me luck for the land does not appear to near.

For now, I am on a small oppurtunistic raft, trying to survive.

The secular shariah demands that any democratic outcome contrary to what the liberal secular western world desires (e.g. Muslim brotherhood wins or Hamas wins, Algerian Muslim wins etc) be overturned by brute force. It demands that there be free market economy but that the end result of capitalism (monopoly) and darwinistic competition be overturned in a nonsensical way to sustain itself. It demands that any precieved threat from the outside (e.g. Muslims in Sweden or France) be made to appear to have a choice and a chance in the system until it deems the execution of said choice to be a threat to the core philosophy of the system.

Fair enough, thats all you had to say. However, men like Commander Dauran prefer to die standing on their feet and not on their knees like you and I. I cannot as a member of the human race, understanding what it means to want to live independently, ask him to not exhibit this timeless and basic human behavior since Sargon sat on his throne. It is the same with the Iranian individual in Tehran... if he wants to protest and die for greater freedoms he feels he lacks... I cannot ask him to stop just to accord to what feels comfortable for me. If the will of his rural compatriots from the country side overpowers him and throws the balance against him, so be it... he chose his fate. The same goes for Commander Dauran. He will risk his life... and he will case the dye.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Well, so my personal race horse, Toramana is now tied in the polling. In order to throw the odds back in my favor, I asked Admin Khan to expand the poll when he gets time. I figured we Americans are pretty good at wrigging other people's elections, so I might as well capitalize in this skill.

[Admin Khan]

Well, so my personal race horse, Toramana is now tied in the polling. In order to throw the odds back in my favor, I asked Admin Khan to expand the poll when he gets time. I figured we Americans are pretty good at wrigging other people's elections, so I might as well capitalize in this skill.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Any projections on whether Barelvi will take the lead? I mean he did kill Baygham Lala's great great great grandpa.

[Admin Khan]

Any projections on whether Barelvi will take the lead?

The night is young. It's a tough one.

[faye]

i tried to vote for them all, but you wouldn't let me.

[graveyardofempires]

i vote for non
but i think esapxai and manzerah are worthy

[BarakzaiAbdali]

i tried to vote for them all, but you wouldn't let me.

Remember Faye this is reprecussions for the PF because when the tribes sit in the jirga they gotta have a representative or a wali. So when Admin Khan convenes the jirga the Yusufzai rep can throw a vote outcome either

This way ----->

Or this way --->

[faye]

were people invited to this jirga or was it imposed upon them, american style??

[BarakzaiAbdali]

were people invited to this jirga or was it imposed upon them, american style??

Well, I guess Im an American... Admin Khan is an American...

Gosh Im hooked on these friggin emoticons. They are genius. Is there one with a turban?

[faye]

was there also a jirga on not responding to me on the other thread, or was that just co(ordinated)incidence? i am feeling neglected.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

was there also a jirga on not responding to me on the other thread, or was that just co(ordinated)incidence? i am feeling neglected.

Which one?

[faye]

deeeerrr........

i havent voted in this one and i want to vote for someone different this time.
let me vote admin khan, let me vote