Baygham Khan Appreciation Thread/ Best Yusufzai award

[BarakzaiAbdali]

i have concluded, b.a.that you have been raiding the medicine cabinet, took a few too many and you're now behaving hysterically.

If sweet tea (southern style) be a drug, then I stand guilty as charged.

http://www.grits.com/tea.htm

[faye]

do you mean, as southern as mexico? yeah, we all know about mexican 'tea'.

[graveyardofempires]

she seems very intelligent but i could not find info on if she is pashtun or not. i am not sure about her tactics in parliament though. not the best way to get things done by being so upfront, in that particular company.

she maybe smart and have a good point but she is just used for other people's political gains.and lets not forget the weird looking awards and medals she is receiving.


Malalai Joya receives Golden Fleur-de-Lis Award in Florence on Vimeo

[faye]

she doesn't look too impressed there, herself.

[graveyardofempires]

she doesn't look too impressed there, herself.

she doesnt seem to be too impressed on this one either.
YouTube - Apology of US Sergeant Matthis Chiroux to Malalai Joya

[faye]

she seems to be playing some of the games so she can garner support in the west and keep publicity happening for her cause against the government in afghanistan.

[Shlombay]

Pf is full of yusufzais. They have a large presence in pf congress but we are all pashtoon. That is what matters. Esapxai say it with me laraw bar yaw afgha. Lar aw bar yaw afghan.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Toramana all the way...

who is yousafzai? yousafzai pakhtun?

we have too many yousafzais here, you excluded some.

Even Manzareh is yousafzai from Swat

Can we add them? I do not know how.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Toramana all the way...

who is yousafzai? yousafzai pakhtun?

we have too many yousafzais here, you excluded some.

Even Manzareh is yousafzai from Swat

By Yousafzai I meant you. However, I would like to add:

1. You for clarity
2. Manzerah
3. Ahmad Shah Barelvi (since he was a yusufzai)
4. Any other Yusufzai on here that you see fit

Then we can restart the vote.

[Toramana]

By Yousafzai I meant you. However, I would like to add:

1. You for clarity
2. Manzerah
3. Ahmad Shah Barelvi (since he was a yusufzai)
4. Any other Yusufzai on here that you see fit

Then we can restart the vote.

Ahmad Shah Barelvi was not a Pashtun let a Yousazai...He was kicked by Pashtuns out when he tried to impose the Hindustani brand Islam on Pashtuns...

[Toramana]

BarakzaiAbdali, I am seeing a problem with you that is, you can count the trees but cannot see the jungle...What I mean by this is that you don't have the kind of holistic, universalistic, and objective view of human affair, which characterise men (and women) of higher intellect. You are caught too much in the web of caste and creed to be able to see, understand, rationalise, and generalise (as well as appreciate) what is external to your own personal world (shaped by belief in the super-natural).

Probably, this is due to your training as a doctor. I may be wrong but my impression is, medical knowledge is not like mathematical, philosophical, etc. knowledge where rules, principles, laws, theorems, axioms, etc. coalesce into one grand/general truth (kind of meta-knowledge) to provide one a model/tool for explaining, interpreting, and understanding a whole range of phenomena and enable one to derive higher truth from existing system of rules. My hunch is, medical knowledge appears as a set of individual facts where every fact is separate from other facts and is to be learn't in its own right and that, individual facts don't merge into a one "whole" or a single system or grand truth (like a formula in mathematics or systems of equations in physics e.g. Newtonian Mechanics) . Therefore, in medical you cannot employ the kind of generalization as you do in other forms of knowledges.

I have met very few doctors with an intellect. For good intellect, you must be able generalise (abstract) as well specialise/concretise. Here on this forum Baygham and Gulalai (both doctors) were/are two individuals I find of higher intellect (whereas Gulalai has left Baygham is still here).

This is also common with most Islamists for whom history starts just 14 hundred years ago or the entire truth lies within their own ideological bounds. Simply being rhetorical wouldn't give you an intellectual edge or guide others to truth.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Ahmad Shah Barelvi was not a Pashtun let a Yousazai...He was kicked by Pashtuns out when he tried to impose the Hindustani brand Islam on Pashtuns...

why is there literature saying that he most likely was?

[ScimitarXEdge]

BarakzaiAbdali, I am seeing a problem with you that is, you can count the trees but cannot see the jungle...What I mean by this is that you don't have the kind of holistic, universalistic, and objective view of human affair, which characterise men (and women) of higher intellect. You are caught too much in the web of caste and creed to be able to see, understand, rationalise, and generalise (as well as appreciate) what is external to your own personal world.

Probably, this is due to your training as a doctor. I may be wrong but my impression is the medical knowledge is not like mathematical, philosophical, etc. knowledge where rules, principles, laws, theorems, axioms, etc. coalesce into one grand/general truth (kind of meta-knowledge) to provide one a model for explaining, interpreting, and understanding a whole range of phenomena. My hunch is, medical knowledge appears as a set of individual facts where every fact is separate from other facts and is to be learn't in its own right and the individual facts don't merge into a single system (like a formula in mathematics or systems of equations in physics e.g. Newtonian Mechanics) .

I have met very doctors with an intellect. For a good intellect, you must be able generalise (abstraction) as well specialise/concretise. Baygham and Gulalai were/are two individuals I find of higher intellect (whereas Gulalai has left Baygham is still here).

This is common with all Islamists for whom history starts just 14 hundred years ago or the entire truth lies within their own ideological bounds. Simply being rhetorical wouldn't give you an edge or guide others to truth.

And for that matter neither do you, although I strongly disagree with your assessment of BarakzaiAbdali; all you have done in this post is make some blanket remark about what you think BarakzaiAbdali's level of understanding and then bolster some pretentious image of yourself as having some level of higher cogent holistic all-encompassing awareness and enlightenment, somehow based on the dictums of mathematical operations, as if your rhetoric is commutatively deduced by the process of strict axiomatic reduction.

As someone with a degree in Enviro Science, and pursuing an advanced degree in Applied Math, you're have not shown you have insight into some inductive holistic comprehensive R^n level consciousness of space and it's subspaces and variables; but merely a pompous self aggrandizement.

Your logical fallacies, circular arguments and fragmented reasonings in pretty much all of your debates and heavy reliance on sentimental and emotional pull, demonstrate a lack of everything you mention.

I find that BarakzaiAbdali with his evidence based deduction, where he supplements any statement and assessment with direct real world referentiable support is more reflective of the holistic and cogent systematic reductionism which encompasses a complete understanding of events and outcomes than your rhetorical banter.

[Toramana]

And for that matter neither do you, although I strongly disagree with your assessment of BarakzaiAbdali; all you have done in this post is make some blanket remark about what you think BarakzaiAbdali's level of understanding and then bolster some pretentious image of yourself as having some level of higher cogent holistic all-encompassing awareness and enlightenment, somehow based on the dictums of mathematical operations, as if your rhetoric is commutatively deduced by the process of strict axiomatic reduction.

This is a gossip between two Pashtuns (one Yousafzai, other Abdali ) so you should let us continue this.

And listen, if I ever happened to be your examiner, I will get you failed if you resorted to the same bad habit as you have demonsrated here i.e., knowling very little or having extremely poor understanding of things but deriving huge conclusions from your limited knowledge.

[ScimitarXEdge]

This is a gossip between two Pashtuns (one Yousafzai, other Abdali ) so you should let us continue this.

And listen, if I ever happened to be your examiner, I will get you failed if you resorted to the same bad habit as you have demonsrated here i.e., knowling very still or having poor understanding of things but deriving huge conclusions from your limited knowledge.

You say this but you never have actually pointed out where I have made any errors in my conclusion; You have however misrepresented my arguments, took them grossly out of context and such. I.e. Straw Man Arguments.

as far as I'm concerned you're not credible or competent; you rely heavily on logical fallacies. not a sign of possessing understanding