Origin of white race(Aryan) go back to region of recent day Afghanistan

[kakargirl]

has anyone even watched the video,the video is a sample of scientific proof for the people in the west for them to stop being racist to know where there race came from how there D N A findings take them back to afghan land and irainian land so no one can change these facts the markers are there in the D N A of nordic's the celtics ,and if you watch the video it explains that the scientist havn't found semetic D N A in the afghan pastuns and if you look at the video carefully it points out the two regions where blond and red hair started afghanistan and iran again that explains why all my family members are blond to red heads so these are facts to stop racial hatred ,it prooves that white genes appeared in asia this a pashtun forum we are discussing pashtuns

[PaXTooN]

This is funny.. this is the same bull**** the Persians have used to brainwash most of modern Iranians, I mean after all Iran = land of Aryans and Iranian = Aryan.. I don't believe in this term 'Aryan' we indeed do have links to indo-Europeans but we're way too mixed to be considered as a 'white' race if you will.. for example within kurds maybe 30-40% of the population are white and the rest are not, even though every kurds speaks an indo-European language and our culture is indo-European.. most kurds (80%) are 'white' but not the European 'red and white' the kind of white skin that gets tanned very easily and as you grow and spend time in the sun you get darker, I assume the same applies with Pashtuns?

Well, you see; race mixing is a very common thing among us Muslims and I'm sure most unmixed persians; unmixed kurds, unmixed Pashtuns are quite "White". I personally am very proud of my Pashtun heritage and with this heritage I confuse many people as I have green eyes and at the same time hang out with a lot of Punjabi's and even speak their language with them.

/long speech

[PaXTooN]

I did not know that Hitler was a world authority on ethnic history???, and last I checked we don't look (well I speak for myself and most others) like we are Scandinavian.

Dude, why can't you guys just be proud of being Pashtun.

How many times do I have to say it _ there is no such thing as the Aryan race- Aryan is a sanskrit word that means noble blood- nothing else.

And Persians are Persians, again I have rarely ever seen a Persian who looks like a German or Austrian.

And on another note, the Bani Israel theory has a lot of support. I stick with that one, and maybe Pashtuns are also descended from Scythians and Pactyans

We are our own people and not linked to anyone, we don't have a Persian culture at all, nor do we even look like them (Persian men are very skinny and physically weak).

I never said we are Nordid at all. We are mediterannean caucasoid. If you say only Nordic/Scandanavian people are the only whites then I guess Italians/Spaniards/Greeks aren't white.
The Bani Israel theory is most definitely untrue as genetically we have almost nothing in common with semites (Jews OR Arabs)
Btw, I wasn't using Hitler as a source of anything, I just used his quote to show that someone as racist as him said persians were white.

- He used Aryan as a synonym for "white" which is untrue, completely.

[Michin Khel]

. Again, there's no way we could prove that Aryans who are first described in the Vedas and Puaranas were 'white' or 'Caucasoid'. That is simply because we don't know how they looked.

Aryans must have been light-skinned because even today upper caste hindus are lighter in skin tone than lower caste hindus.

[Michin Khel]

I would not call pashtuns as pure race. Pashtuns are mixed with greek, huns, turks, mongols, dardic, arab, persians, indians etc. Central asians and south asians are greatly mixed people.

Between biologically it is wrong to assume that human can be pure as we dont breed like horses or other animals.

[kurd123]

There is no doubt that today's Europeans migrated from the middle east excluding arab land.. but take it this way, when the indo-Europeans migrated from the middle east, they wiped out what ever race lived in Europe and they settled there, now at this point the middle east and Europe were all white people, but there is a reason why the middle east is where the 'East meets the West' becuase we pretty much absorbed all attacks from Arabs,mongols etc.. and we mixed with them while the white people in Europe remained more or less a pure white race. There is no such thing as 'unmixed' Kurd becuase Kurd is a new term that was used by 60 or so tribes that united together.. we are all of Iranic race (pashtuns,kurds,Persians,baloch,lurs etc) we all had one common ancestor to begin with, BUT the indo-Europeans pretty much raped every native race to the middle east and they mixed with them..

there are kurds like this:










and there are kurds that look like this: this guy is the prime minister by the way.



I myself I'm a white Kurd.

P.S: IM NOT HIGHJACKING YOUR THREADS, I'M SIMPLY MAKING A POINT WHICH CAN BE APPLIED TO ALL INDO-EUROPEANS (KURDS, PASHTUNS, PERSIANS, BALOCH, LARS ETC)

[KhalsaWarrior]

Aryans must have been light-skinned because even today upper caste hindus are lighter in skin tone than lower caste hindus.

The last Aryans arrived 2500 years ago. Who is to say that the 'fairness' of the upper caste Hindus is not due to mixing with later groups?

[KhalsaWarrior]

ok seriously, first this discussion on race is sad and pathetic, and secondly, why are you all adhering to race divisions made by a German ehtnologist??

How many times do I have to say Aryan just means noble blood in Sanskrit (the whole thing is a myth) Yes, Iranian tribes went to India and all that and formed the Hindu religion which operates on caste system.

Hitler propagated the Aryan story to differentiate Germans and Austrians from other Europeans because it was part of his plan to increases nationalistic sentiment in his nation. Thats all.

Thank you. Wish more people on the forum read up on Indo-Aryan history before becoming experts on the "Great White Race".

[Shamaar]

I thought I'd just let you guys in on a little secret. I am the origin of the white race.

[Toramana]

I thought I'd just let you guys in on a little secret. I am the origin of the white race.

Oh really? You should've told us that before. We just wasted our time in this long discussion.

[Shamaar]

Oh really? You should've told us that before. We just wasted our time in this long discussion.

I know bro, I should have. But it was fun reading all the theories you know.

[kakargirl]

I did not know that Hitler was a world authority on ethnic history???, and last I checked we don't look (well I speak for myself and most others) like we are Scandinavian.

Dude, why can't you guys just be proud of being Pashtun.

How many times do I have to say it _ there is no such thing as the Aryan race- Aryan is a sanskrit word that means noble blood- nothing else.

And Persians are Persians, again I have rarely ever seen a Persian who looks like a German or Austrian.

And on another note, the Bani Israel theory has a lot of support. I stick with that one, and maybe Pashtuns are also descended from Scythians and Pactyans

We are our own people and not linked to anyone, we don't have a Persian culture at all, nor do we even look like them (Persian men are very skinny and physically weak).

unknown prince i have too much respect for you but i'm nordic scandinavian looking so is my entire family from generation after generation yet the markers in us show we are afghan pashtuns from afghanistan kandahar same markers are found from kandahars people in russia sweden norway the irish ect

[Manzareh]

So your ancestors were mixed people?, like you have genes from Russians AND Norway, that's quite strange as I didn't no the caucass mountain nomads mingled with the vikes and then settled to form the current day Pashtuns? You say your whole family look Scandinavian generation from generation but didn't you say your great grandfather was Amir Dost Muhammad which means your from wazir akbars family but none of them look Scandinavian at all, so how? Interesting stuff kakagirl share more with us

[kakargirl]

So your ancestors were mixed people?, like you have genes from Russians AND Norway, that's quite strange as I didn't no the caucass mountain nomads mingled with the vikes and then settled to form the current day Pashtuns? You say your whole family look Scandinavian generation from generation but didn't you say your great grandfather was Amir Dost Muhammad which means your from wazir akbars family but none of them look Scandinavian at all, so how? Interesting stuff kakagirl share more with us

no manzareh wrora dost mohammed is a barakzai and barakzais are sub tribe from kakar wazir akbars family has mixed with others abit but iv seen his descendents that even now live there alot are very nordic looking espeacially the new additons of his family his grea grea great grwa granchildren 160 years is a long time ago im the 9th generration in my family so what does that tell you dost mohammad had a few sons we are the original family straight from him the ones in kandahar all look like us may be the ones you've seen have mixed but most kakars are very nordic looking i look nordic i didnt say our family was mixed our family is pure as far as we know it as they only married in each other but the scientist who did the testing found those same markers in norway sweden meaning people who took a D N A test that there ancestory goes back to kandahar evene some irish celtic D N A GOES BACK TO KANDAHAR AREA to our type of people im not talking about the vikings vikings have a mixter of mongol blood im talking about the nordic the ones with the sharpp features like straight noses but thin shaper eyes not bland features like vikings vikings are vry ugly people actually . oh and i meant that these peoplemigrated out of afghanistan thousands of years ago but carrys the markers of the kandarrians in that im talking about alot of the tribes of kandahar as the samples were taken from all types of tribes, but white genes is a mutated gene so obviously and just cos wazir akbar family dosnt look it they all still have the genes in them that carry this mutated gene marker the other thing is some of the kandahrians werent that white in colour but yet markers from russia and nordic areas still go back to them means these russian and nords descend from kandahar area

[GreenMan]

Instead of making factually incorrect claims lets look at real scientific data that is now available , following is the Atlas of Human journey that has been made by National Geographic's Genogrphic project

https://genographic.nationalgeograph.../en/atlas.html

and it states the following: