Tajiks, Farsiwan, and Persianized Pashtuns

[Afghanfootball]

"Afghan" is just the Persian word for Pashtun similar to how its "Pathan" in Indic. The correct translation for Afghan in Pashto is "Pashtun" and the correct translation for Afghanistan in Pashto is "Pashtunkhwa".

I disagree Afghan probably has its roots from Aspagan/Ashvakan. Also Avgan has been mentioned quite a few times by Kushans and Indians

[Afghanfootball]

Hey you never know, it may end up being a Kurdi word since there is a Kurdi tribe by the name of "Afghani".

Some southern Kurd tribes (Iraq/Iran border area)

No. Major Southern Kurd Tribes 1 Fayli 2 Gurani 3 Kakai 4 Kalhuri 5 Laki 6 Silakhuri
No Southern Kurd Sub-Tribes 1 Afghani 2 Ali Shirwani 3 Bajalan 4 Hawrami 5 Jawanrudi 6 Malikshahi 7 MuradKhani 8 Qalkhani 9 Sanjabi 10 Talabani 11 Zand 12 Zangana 13 Zardalan

http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/kurdish-tribes

https://ethnicgeography.wordpress.com/tag/feyli/

Then there is the similarities in vocabulary, grammer, and pronounciation between Kurdi and Pashto. All this can't be a coincidence IMO. See my post at

I cant find any mention of Afghani in either of your posts.....

[Firdousi]

"Afghan" is just the Persian word for Pashtun similar to how its "Pathan" in Indic. The correct translation for Afghan in Pashto is "Pashtun" and the correct translation for Afghanistan in Pashto is "Pashtunkhwa".

Ehhh, no. Pashtun and Afghan are synonymous. But the word "Afghan" is Persian. You don't have the "f" word in Pashto, do you? The suffix -stan is also Persian.. so Afghanistan is a Persian word. Bitter truth.

[Firdousi]

I disagree Afghan probably has its roots from Aspagan/Ashvakan. Also Avgan has been mentioned quite a few times by Kushans and Indians

Educate yourself, loser.

[Dilawerkhan]

I cant find any mention of Afghani in either of your posts.....

Not my post, but my 2nd link. Take a look at the 3rd map from the top of the page, and you will see the location of the Kurd tribe called "Afghani"

[Afghanfootball]

Not my post, but my 2nd link. Take a look at the 3rd map from the top of the page, and you will see the location of the Kurd tribe called "Afghani"

Interesting. I cant find any info on them they could be kurdized Afghans. Im pretty sure an Afghan king named Azad Khan Afghan ruled that area.

[Samandri]

"Afghan" is just the Persian word for Pashtun similar to how its "Pathan" in Indic. The correct translation for Afghan in Pashto is "Pashtun" and the correct translation for Afghanistan in Pashto is "Pashtunkhwa".

Who says its Iranian term for Pashtuns? Only 'Afghan' name appears in the history, even in the historical documents of Pashtuns.......Pashtun or Pakhtun are absent.

You can not compare a proper term Afghan with that Bastaerdized term 'Pathan' coined by Hindus.

[Samandri]

Ehhh, no. Pashtun and Afghan are synonymous. But the word "Afghan" is Persian. You don't have the "f" word in Pashto, do you? The suffix -stan is also Persian.. so Afghanistan is a Persian word. Bitter truth.

Moron , alphabet ف exist in Pashto

[Aryana]

Because I am a citizen of Afghanistan, ethnically Persian. Actually "Afghan" is a Persian word. Pashtuns lack of the "f" letter. "Awghan" would be the correct term in Pashto. Do you realize guys that everything in this country, even the name, is Persian? This proves once again our superiority. Remember this next time you call yourself "Afghan" lmao

It is Persian, not Tajiki, that is widespread amongst Pashtuns.
We lack the f letter? Where did you get that from? Educate yourself chinky Mongol, the letter ف exists in Pashto.

[Sarbani]

I disagree Afghan probably has its roots from Aspagan/Ashvakan. Also Avgan has been mentioned quite a few times by Kushans and Indians

You're probably right regarding the roots of the word. I was just saying that Afghan was the word that Persians used for Pashtuns. They called us "Afghan" instead of the word Pashtun historically.

[Shapur]

Moron , alphabet ف exist in Pashto

Firdousi is making himself look dumb because actually in all Iranian languages including Farsi, Pashto etc the letter ف was introduced after Islam. In Arabic there is no پ, so they called the language فارسی instead of پارسی. There are a few letters which only exist in Iranian languages because of Arabic influence. Letters like ق ظ ض etc were not part of these languages originally and are only included in the alphabet so we can pronounce the words borroweed from Arabic in our languages properly.

[Sarbani]

Moron , alphabet ف exist in Pashto

Its not a sound native to Pashto though. It exists in Pashto just like the word ﻁ exists in Pashto.

[Sarbani]

Ehhh, no. Pashtun and Afghan are synonymous. But the word "Afghan" is Persian. You don't have the "f" word in Pashto, do you? The suffix -stan is also Persian.. so Afghanistan is a Persian word. Bitter truth.

Can you read? I literally just said that.

[Sarbani]

Firdousi is making himself look dumb because actually in all Iranian languages including Farsi, Pashto etc the letter ف was introduced after Islam. In Arabic there is no پ, so they called the language فارسی instead of پارسی. There are a few letters which only exist in Iranian languages because of Arabic influence. Letters like ق ظ ض etc were not part of these languages originally and are only included in the alphabet so we can pronounce the words borroweed from Arabic in our languages properly.

The letter <f> wasn't introduced to Persian after Islam.

The farvahar is a pre-Islamic symbol in Iran and its written with an <f> not a <p>.

Faravahar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Persians also pronounce the [f] sound properly when talking in Persian whereas Pashtun villagers pronounce it as [p].

[Shapur]

The letter <f> wasn't introduced to Persian after Islam.

The farvahar is a pre-Islamic symbol in Iran and its written with an <f> not a <p>.

Faravahar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Persians also pronounce the [f] sound properly when talking in Persian whereas Pashtun villagers pronounce it as [p].

hmm, strange as I read somewhere that ف is borrowed from Arabic after Islam by Iranian languages. Would be strange if none of them like kurdi, balochi etc had this letter except persian.