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  • Originally posted by Aryana View Post
    What type of **** reasoning is that? What happened to Tajiks being "Persians"? Unless you can give me some proof that Tajiks are Bactrians (that will be hard to do anyway, Tajiks lost an identity hundreds of years ago), there isn't any reason to continue arguing. Don't you realise that by calling Tajiks "Bactrians" your dreams of being Persian will go away?

    Bactrian language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    If you can read that page, it clearly mentions Bactrian as an Eastern Iranic language.







    I've never seen a Pashtun try to claim Parthians or Tocharians. Parthians were Persians and Tocharians were another group entirely. Just try to realise that take your own advice and actually give me some evidence for your claim that Tajiks are Bactrians. So far, the only **** you've said to support that idea, is that Bactrians came from Balkh, which is now inhabited by Tajiks. Scythians came from the Turkic states in a Central Asia, so Scythians are Turkic people now? Aboriginals come from Australia, which is now inhabited mostly by English, so Aboriginals are English?
    I seriously facepalm every time this posers says anything lmao
    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

    -Ferdowsi.

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    • Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
      I have the same exact concerns.

      One argument relayed to me is that Pashtuns just kept oral history, and being pastoralists/nomads they didn't have room for books. However, Saka were pastoral nomads as well and have records and some literature left behind.

      I would say whatever evidence we do have, relationship of Pashto to Avestan, Pashtun genetics and habits and customs of Pashtuns, definitely relate them to ancient peoples of the region but to whom exactly?

      Most likely NOT the Bactrians or Kushans, who as I said earlier were metrpolitan peoples. Not really pastoral nomads, albeit they may have had some nomadism. after all Bactrian Camels right?

      Pashtuns are one of the few present day breeders of Bactrian camels, but Saka also used bactrian camels.

      Now your main question, why they keep insisting these tenuous associations with Kushans and Bactrians, my answer is political agenda by Nationalists that claiming they were Bactrians and Kushans legitimizes their social hegemony by claiming they had ancient kingdoms.
      You see? People like Aryana they even try to steal other people history and heritage just because it makes them feel better. Now she claims Tajiks are not Bactrians, only Pashtuns are Bactrians. She wants badly to relate herself to them. This seems to be a common pattern among nationalist people: wishful thinking.

      You are an extremely cerebral person. I really like your impartiality, Iblis. Kudos to your parents man, they did a good job.
      "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
      I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

      -Ferdowsi.

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      • Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
        Except we are talking about settled people. The Bactrians were settled people, not nomads who wandered around. And there is no documentation of massacring/genocide/mass migration so its probably logical to think the Tajis (both Afghanistan and Tajkistan) are main descendants of Bactrians. Balkh was the capital of Bactria (Bakhtar in persian).

        Pashtuns (Pakhtuns) i believe are descendended mainly from Pactyans and Arachosians. Georgraphically this would makes sense:

        Yes, Tajiks have some partial Bactrian ancestry, but Tajiks are mainly descendants of Mongols and Sogdians:

        Sogdia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        The geography of the area also matches up perfectly with what is now Tajikistan.

        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
        I seriously facepalm every time this posers says anything lmao
        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
        You see? People like Aryana they even try to steal other people history and heritage just because it makes them feel better. Now she claims Tajiks are not Bactrians, only Pashtuns are Bactrians. Shewants badly to relate herself to them. This seems to be a common pattern among nationalist people: wishful thinking.

        You are an extremely cerebral person. I really like your impartiality, Iblis. Kudos to your parents man, they did a good job.

        Calm down bacha baz. If you want to refute my claims, just do it. No need to bitch about it and play victim. I understand that you've gone through a lot of sexual abuse as a child, but at least keep the tantrums to a minimum.
        Last edited by Aryana; 08-03-2016, 08:33 AM.
        "If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"

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        • Originally posted by Aryana View Post
          Yes, Tajiks have some partial Bactrian ancestry, but Tajiks are mainly descendants of Mongols and Sogdians:

          Sogdia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

          The geography of the area also matches up perfectly with what is now Tajikistan.



          Calm down bacha baz.
          Tajiks have some turkic/mongol but most of them look non mongol though (specially south tajikistan):
























          Last edited by Forreigner; 08-03-2016, 08:55 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
            Tajiks have some turkic/mongol but most of them look non mongol though (specially south tajikistan):
            mg]
            These features and uni brows are influenced by mongols, apart from that one girl who look Russian. They indeed have distinct look.

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            • Originally posted by Golden View Post
              These features and uni brows are influenced by mongols, apart from that one girl who look Russian. They indeed have distinct look.
              I find uni brows kinda sexy on women though. The ancient Aryans considered uni-brows very holy and sacred, a sign of superiority, separating the nobility from the peasants.
              Last edited by Forreigner; 08-03-2016, 02:46 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
                I find uni brows kinda sexy on women though. The ancient Aryans considered uni-brows very holy and sacred, a sign of superiority, separating the nobility from the peasants.
                Aryans were whites, they couldn't possibly had animal (goat) like uni-brows. They make women look like tranny. This is clearly later date admixture result.
                Last edited by Golden; 08-03-2016, 03:21 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Golden View Post
                  Aryans were whites, they couldn't possibly had animal (goat) like uni-brows. They make women look like tranny. This is clearly later date admixture result.
                  Loool.

                  They look better and are superior than Poon(ani)job women:















                  Tazis are the highest caste Indians (descendants of Aryanas)...accept your place you low caste negro panjuu peasant....
                  Last edited by Forreigner; 08-03-2016, 03:38 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
                    Come on you're ridiculing a Muslim sister wearing hijab now, trolling should have limits. What's wrong with the way she looks? I'm not saying she's every man's dream, but she looks healthy and happy.

                    I can say that neither of the other pictures you posted are representative of South Asian women in general.

                    Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                    Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                    don’t try to be smart.

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                    • Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
                      Tajiks have some turkic/mongol but most of them look non mongol though (specially south tajikistan):








                      I love the caps and dress style of traditional Tajiks, it's very classy and wholesome, I think this is an acceptable way for women to dress.
                      reminds me of one of my cousins when she was a kid, she's half Turkish
                      Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 08-03-2016, 04:52 PM.

                      Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                      Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                      don’t try to be smart.

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                      • Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
                        Loool.

                        They look better and are superior than Poon(ani)job women:

                        Tazis are the highest caste Indians (descendants of Aryanas)...accept your place you low caste negro panjuu peasant....
                        No longer after they were forced to convert to islam and chinese ****ed them, you people are known as dirty mleechas by one and true aryanas. Only true aryanas are Indian high castes. I'm my self brahmin convert but we have only married with in other brahmin converts of our area and kept our lineage pure aryan. But despite all that I no longer consider my self aryana.

                        non of the girls you posted are panzabi muzlim, 2nd is paki of unknown origin

                        here is pak panzabi

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                        • Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
                          Tajiks have some turkic/mongol but most of them look non mongol though (specially south tajikistan):
                          The girl in that picture looks almost exactly like one of my cousins.

                          Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
                          I find uni brows kinda sexy on women though. The ancient Aryans considered uni-brows very holy and sacred, a sign of superiority, separating the nobility from the peasants.
                          A lot of Afghans have unibrows.
                          Last edited by Aryana; 08-03-2016, 06:06 PM.
                          "If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"

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                          • Originally posted by Golden View Post
                            No longer after they were forced to convert to islam and chinese ****ed them, you people are known as dirty mleechas by one and true aryanas. Only true aryanas are Indian high castes. I'm my self brahmin convert but we have only married with in other brahmin converts of our area and kept our lineage pure aryan. But despite all that I no longer consider my self aryana.

                            non of the girls you posted are panzabi muzlim, 2nd is paki of unknown origin

                            here is pak panzabi

                            Then you should know that 99% of Porkistan consists of dalit converts.
                            "If a lion comes and takes your share, go get it back from the mouth of the lion"

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                            • Originally posted by Aryana View Post
                              The girl in that picture looks almost exactly like one of my cousins.



                              A lot of Afghans have unibrows.
                              Nobody cares.

                              Here you are, losers, disrespecting each other for eyebrows lmao
                              "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                              I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                              -Ferdowsi.

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                              • Originally posted by Golden View Post
                                No longer after they were forced to convert to islam and chinese ****ed them, you people are known as dirty mleechas by one and true aryanas. Only true aryanas are Indian high castes. I'm my self brahmin convert but we have only married with in other brahmin converts of our area and kept our lineage pure aryan. But despite all that I no longer consider my self aryana.

                                non of the girls you posted are panzabi muzlim, 2nd is paki of unknown origin

                                here is pak panzabi

                                Why would you photoshop a paki flag on her cheek, she must viewed by your people as one of the top 10 treasures of panzabi's to do that. Yeah she's decent but most of us probably wouldn't give her a second look or even notice her..meanwhile you guys are stamping your authority on her and making her into a trademark.
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                                *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                                Originally posted by Karachi
                                like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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