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  • #46
    Originally posted by PeHa View Post
    What do you guys think about a united nation of Kurdistan, Iran, Afghanistan and Tajikistan? It is interesting as we are a civil people with a great history, our influence may reach all the way to Levant and Anatoila, we may be able to establish a nation close to Achaemenid.
    There was never a "greater Persia" only some Persian empires. Persian rulers themselves recognized that Persia was ruling over other peoples and nations that were different to them, some more then others.

    The difference between Arabs and Persians is that Arabs eventually destroyed the identities and languages of Egyptians, Berbers, Syrians, Lebanon, Palestine, Mesopotamia etc and so languages like Coptic, Aramaic, Syriac etc vanished and these peoples all become assimilated Arabs. Persians did not do that except in Parthia where they tried to wipe out Parthian language which contributed to their overall downfall as an empire.

    Other Iranian languages like Sogdian, Bactrian and Khwarazmian died out and were eventually replaced by Persian by some freak chance of history, probably because Turks killed many of them and assimilated much of the others before they brought back Persian from the brink of extinction as a political language in Iran and so-called "Iranian lands" that previously had never been Persian speaking (like Tajikistan). The language change wasnt done by force unlike what Arabs did to others in the Middle East and North Africa.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
      There was never a "greater Persia" only some Persian empires. Persian rulers themselves recognized that Persia was ruling over other peoples and nations that were different to them, some more then others.

      The difference between Arabs and Persians is that Arabs eventually destroyed the identities and languages of Egyptians, Berbers, Syrians, Lebanon, Palestine, Mesopotamia etc and so languages like Coptic, Aramaic, Syriac etc vanished and these peoples all become assimilated Arabs. Persians did not do that except in Parthia where they tried to wipe out Parthian language which contributed to their overall downfall as an empire.

      Other Iranian languages like Sogdian, Bactrian and Khwarazmian died out and were eventually replaced by Persian by some freak chance of history, probably because Turks killed many of them and assimilated much of the others before they brought back Persian from the brink of extinction as a political language in Iran and so-called "Iranian lands" that previously had never been Persian speaking (like Tajikistan). The language change wasnt done by force unlike what Arabs did to others in the Middle East and North Africa.
      I agree There was never a greater persia however Bactrian did not disappear it developed into Pashto.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Afghanfootball View Post
        I agree There was never a greater persia however Bactrian did not disappear it developed into Pashto.
        Well it didn't developed into Pashto, sorry to tell you that. Closest language that comes into reading ancient literature like Avesta or Rig Veda is Pashto, not Parsi. Meaning that Ariana is older than Median Empire or Achamenieds aka Persian empires. So Pashto has always been here since the first humans that settled in our Pashtun region.

        It feels like these half arab Iranians trying to steal anything that comes from ancient Ariana and the former empires. Funny people really.

        Here is something I found from TOLO NEWS. But To say Its very important to know who owns TOLO Channels.



        (The disscusion is farsi, not Pashto)

        There is one thing as well. Parsi and Farsi is the same. But Pars is the more correct dialect, because we hardcore Pashtuns have hard time saying F. Hahaha its really funny but its true.

        The owner of TOLO NEWS name is Saad Mohseni. Damn this guy looks like an arab/jew.


        To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post
          Well it didn't developed into Pashto, sorry to tell you that. Closest language that comes into reading ancient literature like Avesta or Rig Veda is Pashto, not Parsi. Meaning that Ariana is older than Median Empire or Achamenieds aka Persian empires. So Pashto has always been here since the first humans that settled in our Pashtun region.

          It feels like these half arab Iranians trying to steal anything that comes from ancient Ariana and the former empires. Funny people really.

          Here is something I found from TOLO NEWS. But To say Its very important to know who owns TOLO Channels.



          (The disscusion is farsi, not Pashto)

          There is one thing as well. Parsi and Farsi is the same. But Pars is the more correct dialect, because we hardcore Pashtuns have hard time saying F. Hahaha its really funny but its true.

          The owner of TOLO NEWS name is Saad Mohseni. Damn this guy looks like an arab/jew.


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          But wror do you think that it was always called Pashto? Strabo said that all the people of Ariana speak more or less the same language. The Kushans called their language the aryan language and it is bactrian.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
            Listen Kid

            Some facts for you

            *All Pashtuns/Afghan by default are Pakistani e.g Pashtun with American or Israely citizenship is still a Pakistani by default.
            *Pashtun living within the radius of 69-82Km farsiwand community cannot be referred to as a Pashtun unless he migrate to a region that has never seen any farsiband community(andaman island or something related) and live in isolation for atleast six weeks
            *A Pashtun if not a muslim is not a Pashtun
            *Pashtun following anything other than Deobandi sect is not a Pashtun

            I will add more later,thanks
            Dude, you have to stop trolling. Pashtuns and Afghan have nothing to do with Pakistan. PERIOD. Those curry fumes in Pakistan have gone to your head all of a sudden of you trying to pin yourself to indic pakis.
            "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

            -Old Pashtun proverb




            "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post
              You only need to look our Pashtunwali to see how our ancestors protected and sheltered refugees from savage invasions from outsiders. To be clear in the past 2000 years, Pashtunistan have been invaded almost 700 and every super power who tried got its as beaten.

              But our soil and people was severely damage, they burned our libraries, they burned down our religious, scientific, history books, they destroyed our cities our ancient artefacts. Like the savage Mongol armies burned down Herat, because we killed his harami son who lost the battle against Pashtuns. Even today pure Pashtuns respect their enemies if they come and seek shelter from injustice, but I hope they change their mind about letting him STAY in our Pashtun soil.

              That's why our Pashtun people had the best reputation before civil wars and still is the nr 1 cultural/people in my eyes.

              But seriously I am not going to be as kind as my ancestors. Never again will my legacy allow future Pashtunistan get foreign citizens and mix raced people to settle in who can later turn their back on us when they have hard time.

              Because you can't let your future grandchildren suffer for your kindness and naivety, when you letting in bad seeds that grows slowly and corrupts our Pashtun soil. You can't let the future of Pashtunistan suffer because now we got the old refugees wanting to claim more power, more land and mix raced haramaziis who serve their foreign interesting and their own rather than our holy Pashtun soil and its majority of citizens.

              I don't need to bring you evidence to your door steps when you see how many of mix raced people here on PF like dannu bani, brown savage, other retarded influenced with wahabii ideology or half arabic Iranians shiites supports either their own foreign master or wanting the pure Pashtuns to suffer and talk bad things about us. This is the thank we get for rescued their grandfathers/grandmothers and letting them stay in our soil because we are a noble people not like any one else out in the world.

              Some idiots may say but hey western countries take refuges. haha let me say this to you first of all western countries have different culture, they like to party, ****kk, and priorities their career rather than settle early and start a FAMILY. When they their women are 30-40 they start having kids. Its only 1 or 2 maximum. So they need workers that's why they take in refugees. And what does the refugees get to work with mostly? Taxi driver, cleaner, restaurant etc.

              If they see the immigrants get better job and better houses than their rich, haha trust me their eyes and mouth drop out and they get hateful towards immigrants.

              Some history about the savage Mongol who mass murdered most of the Asian continent. These bad and savage seeds live today inside and near our soil today. Temüjin aka Gengish "khan" leaved a legacy after him, but that legacy will be the end of his race one way or another. Mongols today are hated throw out the world. China hates, them Iranian despite them and even killing look a like Mongols, Europe hates Turks/Mongols, in Europe they call people with down syndrome for mongoloid. Haha Good job Temüjin!

              http://pazhayathu.blogspot.se/2010/1...n-he-took.html
              I agree wrora, ur people are probably the most hosptiable people in the world and sadly, many people will take advantage of that.
              "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

              -Old Pashtun proverb




              "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                Dude, you have to stop trolling. Pashtuns and Afghan have nothing to do with Pakistan. PERIOD. Those curry fumes in Pakistan have gone to your head all of a sudden of you trying to pin yourself to indic pakis.
                Let that haramzada talk his brainwashed panjabi lies. I have him on ignore. That's why majority of Pashtun legends are buried inside Pashtunistan and not artificial British made porkistan.
                To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Afghanfootball View Post
                  I agree There was never a greater persia however Bactrian did not disappear it developed into Pashto.
                  Then why doesn't Bactrian resemble Pashto?

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                  • #54
                    Not even gonna respond to that.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Afghanfootball View Post
                      Not even gonna respond to that.
                      You believe in Mythology more than evidence and it's going to backfire.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by marwat View Post
                        the age of umpires and dynasties long gone. maybe an economic front including central asia, Afghanistan and Iran like EU
                        I didn't know Baseball was popular in those countries lol



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