Are Pashtuns related to Serbs, Bosniaks and Croats?

[Karachi]

R1b is west european, R1a is common in Pashtuns, Tajiks, Punjabis, Central Asian Turks, and East/West Slavs and Hungarians.

R1a is common from northern and eastern europe to all the way to south asia. R1b is western european, but also found in middle east

[Karachi]

Punjabis have R1A? do you have any proof? they look like full blooded Dravadians to me. Maybe intermixing with their neighours with that halogroup made it more noticeable in them.

not just punjabis but even bengalis and south indians have R1a, R1a in India is found almost everywhere. most likely theory is that R1a came to India way before the so the called indo/aryan invasions. The origin of R1a is most likely central asia

also having just one haplogroup doesn't mean you are just one haplogroup, your autmosal test will show you how mixed you are, majority of indians are mixed with ancestral populations of India and the west Eurasians who came

[Kushan Prince]

not just punjabis but even bengalis and south indians have R1a, R1a in India is found almost everywhere. most likely theory is that R1a came to India way before the so the called indo/aryan invasions. The origin of R1a is most likely central asia

also having just one haplogroup doesn't mean you are just one haplogroup, your autmosal test will show you how mixed you are, majority of indians are mixed with ancestral populations of India and the west Eurasians who came

Interesting, it seems as pashtuns have been mixing with Indians even in ancient times, i mean that's where the halogroup originates from.

[TolloAfghanSpinDai]

R1a is common from northern and eastern europe to all the way to south asia. R1b is western european, but also found in middle east

No, R1b is less common than r1a , poles, ukrainians, hungarians, russians etc. have more R1a than R1b.

[ډګروال]

[Midnight_Sun]

Punjabis have R1A? do you have any proof? they look like full blooded Dravadians to me. Maybe intermixing with their neighours with that halogroup made it more noticeable in them.

Punjabis and Sindhis have lots of R1a, R1a does not code for skin color.

[Kushan Prince]

Punjabis and Sindhis have lots of R1a, R1a does not code for skin color.

I know it doesn't I wasn't implying that but this is obviously because of vast rapes by Greeks, Afghans etc.

[Midnight_Sun]

I know it doesn't I wasn't implying that but this is obviously because of vast rapes by Greeks, Afghans etc.

No brother, this type of talk is actually the same type of talk Europeans say about Afghans being descendants of Greeks and Europeans, while ignoring the 5,000 year history of migration.

Punjab word in itself is an Indo-Aryan word as you know. The region was inhabited by Elamitic people, but they were super imposed with Proto-Indo-European people that settled in the region. The place was also occupied by some of the same migrants that settled Afghanistan, such as the Maurya empire, Kushans (Kanishka), Saka (Indo Scythians who settled in cities like Sialkot), Hephtalites, and Kitharites. That is why there is a martial race, and nomadism among Punjabi Sikhs (ie. Rajputs, Jatt, Gypsies) and why they have R1a1 as well as J2.

[Karachi]

from the spreadsheets on genetic breakup I have seen, most south asians are a mix of two major populations, ancestoral south indians and west asians, while there is also contribution from other populations like Scythian, aryans, kushan etc.. and other , the contribution seems limited

for example an average punjabi/sindhi is 30-40% ASI (ancestral south indian) and about 35-40% West Asian. The west asian component is basically middle eastern, or as Midnight said could be (elamanite). The west asian component basically comes from the west asian farmers who came from Mesopotamian or Iran region and settled in the indus valley, they are the ones who also most likely started in the indus valley civilization some 5000-6000 years ago or possibly 8000 years ago, because Mehrgarh site in Baluchistan is said to be a proto indus civilization

An average Tamil person in south India is about 50-60% ASI, and about 25-35% west asian. Basically you can see that all south asians are related, just the numbers of the components are a bit different depending on the region you are in

Pashtun samples from pakistan are around 20% ASI and about 35% west asian, but pashtuns and other south/central asians do have one component that south asians east of the indus lack or have little of, the (Caucasus) component, they clearly have much higher of this component

[Kushan Prince]

No brother, this type of talk is actually the same type of talk Europeans say about Afghans being descendants of Greeks and Europeans, while ignoring the 5,000 year history of migration.

Punjab word in itself is an Indo-Aryan word as you know. The region was inhabited by Elamitic people, but they were super imposed with Proto-Indo-European people that settled in the region. The place was also occupied by some of the same migrants that settled Afghanistan, such as the Maurya empire, Kushans (Kanishka), Saka (Indo Scythians who settled in cities like Sialkot), Hephtalites, and Kitharites. That is why there is a martial race, and nomadism among Punjabi Sikhs (ie. Rajputs, Jatt, Gypsies) and why they have R1a1 as well as J2.

The word Punjab is actually persian literally meaning "Land of 5 rivers" due to the rivers found in the Punjab landscape. Kushan and scythians are belived to be the descendants of the Pashtuns. I also haven't heard any European claim Pashtuns to be of mix race. They usually claim them to be Aryan because they are light skinned. If the aryan invasion theory is correct, than majority of North Indians are nothing but a hybrid between Aryans and Dravadians.

[Midnight_Sun]

from the spreadsheets on genetic breakup I have seen, most south asians are a mix of two major populations, ancestoral south indians and west asians, while there is also contribution from other populations like Scythian, aryans, kushan etc.. and other , the contribution seems limited

for example an average punjabi/sindhi is 30-40% ASI (ancestral south indian) and about 35-40% West Asian. The west asian component is basically middle eastern, or as Midnight said could be (elamanite). The west asian component basically comes from the west asian farmers who came from Mesopotamian or Iran region and settled in the indus valley, they are the ones who also most likely started in the indus valley civilization some 5000-6000 years ago or possibly 8000 years ago, because Mehrgarh site in Baluchistan is said to be a proto indus civilization

An average Tamil person in south India is about 50-60% ASI, and about 25-35% west asian. Basically you can see that all south asians are related, just the numbers of the components are a bit different depending on the region you are in

Pashtun samples from pakistan are around 20% ASI and about 35% west asian, but pashtuns and other south/central asians do have one component that south asians east of the indus lack or have little of, the (Caucasus) component, they clearly have much higher of this component

Since we are talking about Punjabis, and I guess, as an extension, the Sindhis. Genetic tests show that some Sindhi people are overwhelmingly (greater than 50%) R1a1, while the same applies to Punjabis.

This makes sense since there has been such a huge migration of Central Asian peoples to Pakistan and India. Urdu itself is a loan language, a mix of Turkic, Indo-Aryan, and Persian.

As much as it may pain some nationalists, Punjabis are naturally our neighbors, and we share a common history with this region and with them.

[Karachi]

^ that is true, most north indians have very high R1a1, the Brahmins of UP are showing 80% R1a1a. However that said, having one haplogroup doesn't really give away your full ancestry. autosomal test will show how much ancestry you have from different regions. The percentages I qouted in the last post are about right

[Kushan Prince]

^ Like it or not, North Indians are nothing but a result of rape. There gene flow is unique due to contributions of Afghan, greeks,uzbeks,turks and central Asians. So no they are not related to us. A joint study at Harvard said despite culture differences and skin tone, the north and the south are genetically the same, and are of the same race which is Dravadian.

[Toramana]

What a nonsensical, stupid, rubbish, venomous, useless assertion ---something that can be said by someone who is suffering from extreme low self-esteem and is trying to emulate KKK in their thrust to feel important --- Should have their heads examined by a psychologist---

If that is the criteria, Pashtun themselves are the product of rape for countless armies have traversed their valleys.

North Indians and Punjabis are our brothers---

[Kushan Prince]

What a nonsensical, stupid, rubbish, venomous, useless assertion ---something that can be said by someone who is suffering from extreme low self-esteem and is trying to emulate KKK in their thrust to feel important --- Should have their heads examined by a psychologist---

If that is the criteria, Pashtun themselves are the product of rape for countless armies have traversed their valleys.

North Indians and Punjabis are our brothers---

I think you are being nonsensical here, Genetic studies show Pashtuns share no relation with punjabis or any Indians for that matter. Our real genetic brothers are the tajiks. They share a high frequency of R1A, (41 %) and are part of the eastern Iranian linguistic group like pashtuns. If anyone it is the tajiks and Pashtuns that are the most related. All those armies like the greeks and the mongols PASSED through Afghanistan, they never stayed long enough to mix with the population. Alexander the Great was kicked out by pashtuns all the way to punjab which was Alexanders main objective to reach india. Afghanistan is on the silk road, ofcourse armies have but no choice but to go through there.