Are Pashtuns related to Serbs, Bosniaks and Croats?

[TolloAfghanSpinDai]

Okay, i just throw in Bosniak only because they're supposedly a mix of Serbs and Croats (or Turkish people who lost the abiltity to speak Turkish)

But here's a connection between Pashtuns and Serbs.

look the map below. There are a tribe in the Cauasus named serboi, then i believe it diverged into the Sarban people which happened to be a really huge tribal pashtun confedaration, while the other branch went to mix with slavic peoples and migrated to the Balkans. Estimating, 55% of Pashtuns are Sarbanri Pashtuns, ergo 55% of us are related to Serbians.... the other principal tribal confedertions are Bettanis (mostly having ghilzai Turks), Gharghust (Quetta) and Karlan (usually found in FATA).

Now for Croats, there's this video called Iran and Croatia brothers, howevver Iran likes to "steal" Pashtun history, because it's actually Croats coming from "Arachosia" and Arachosia was a province of the Persians, but inside there were Pactyans. Arachosia is the greek name when Alexander the great conquered the persian empire, before that, the province in old persian was pronounced "Hrvati", the name croats use for themselves.

[Kushan Prince]

No their not, and Turkish people are actually from north Asia who settled into Anatolia.

[Midnight_Sun]

Going just by name similarity, is a little far fetched unfortunately. Maybe there is a Proto Slavic word that is similar to a word in Pashto, but that is probably the closest we get to those people.

Genetically, we are not that similar, they have a sizeable amount of R1a1a, but I believe they lack J2, G2C, Q, and other Pashtun-like markers. I think lots of Slavs are R1b, which is not that prevalent among Pashtuns, but more with Turks.

[TolloAfghanSpinDai]

Going just by name similarity, is a little far fetched unfortunately. Maybe there is a Proto Slavic word that is similar to a word in Pashto, but that is probably the closest we get to those people.

Genetically, we are not that similar, they have a sizeable amount of R1a1a, but I believe they lack J2, G2C, Q, and other Pashtun-like markers. I think lots of Slavs are R1b, which is not that prevalent among Pashtuns, but more with Turks.

soldat amir is pretty fond of serbs and croats, he even tried learning to speak their language.

[Midnight_Sun]

soldat amir is pretty fond of serbs and croats, he even tried learning to speak their language.

I don't know who he is. I'm sure he based this friendship with Serbs and Croats on more than just the similarity of the word Sarban with Serbian, right?

[Tjanaparh]

Dear Aryan Sakazai, words can be similar, it doesn't mean a close relation. I can for example explain the words Pashtun in my language(armenian), it could mean " the worshiping ones", "the honouring ones", pashtel means "to honor, to greet, to worship", pashton means "position or duty", pashtpan means "defender". Easily I can find some less educated people from my country who will say "Pashtuns are from Armenian descendant" and will give you a whole theory as Arrmenians had once quiet straight connection to your region. But I think simplifying history is too dangerous, better collect things we know at least a little.

[یاسمینه]

words can be similar, it doesn't mean a close relation.

Right, in lingustics this is called folk (sometimes false) etymology.

[randolph85]

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[HalloIsBack]

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which of them both is better

[Karachi]

^ to be honest that dark pashtun guy is very rare, at least from what I have seen. Majority of pashtuns and other south/central asians are usually olive skintone, with many kalash, nuristanis, pamiries looking like eastern European.

The genetic component of all south central asians show that they have a large (Caucasus) component in them (20-30%), similar to places like Chechnya, Daghestan etc... There is clearly connection from that area, perhaps recent one. This may be why they often give the Caucasus/East Euro look

[Kushan Prince]

^ to be honest that dark pashtun guy is very rare, at least from what I have seen. Majority of pashtuns and other south/central asians are usually olive skintone, with many kalash, nuristanis, pamiries looking like eastern European.

The genetic component of all south central asians show that they have a large (Caucasus) component in them (20-30%), similar to places like Chechnya, Daghestan etc... There is clearly connection from that area, perhaps recent one. This may be why they often give the Caucasus/East Euro look

I hope your not implying pashtuns came from these areas because the R1B halogroup which is notorious in eastern Europeans originated from Central Asia. So in other words these Europeans might have come from Afghanistan not the other way around.

[Karachi]

no i wasn't talking about who came from where, I was talking about relation, yes indeed central asian plains are most likely the place of origin

[Midnight_Sun]

He's darker because he's a farmer. Farmer's work out in the sun all day. I don't care how white you are, as long as you're not an albino, you will get tan if you are working outside your whole life.

[TolloAfghanSpinDai]

I hope your not implying pashtuns came from these areas because the R1B halogroup which is notorious in eastern Europeans originated from Central Asia. So in other words these Europeans might have come from Afghanistan not the other way around.

R1b is west european, R1a is common in Pashtuns, Tajiks, Punjabis, Central Asian Turks, and East/West Slavs and Hungarians.

[Kushan Prince]

R1b is west european, R1a is common in Pashtuns, Tajiks, Punjabis, Central Asian Turks, and East/West Slavs and Hungarians.

Punjabis have R1A? do you have any proof? they look like full blooded Dravadians to me. Maybe intermixing with their neighours with that halogroup made it more noticeable in them.