Pashtun???

[graveyardofempires]

Iran comes from Aryan, according to "scholars". And Afghanistan was called Aryana, then were was the outcry when Persia changed their name to Iran(same name)? Why are Pashtuns called Afghans by Aryans (Iranians)? And why wasn't Afghanistan called Aryanistan?

If you ask alot of elders in Afghanistan, there going to say that Pashtuns, could be descendants of Bani Israel. But, all the "scholars" deny it, calling it a scam.

Am calling Aryans a scam, can someone ever say when these white Aryan men roamed central/ south Asia? Indus river civilization was around the same time even maybe before Egyptian. Were going back 5-6,000 years.

Pashtuns can be descendents of the exiled Hebrews. They might have mixed with the native Ghandari's, which makes modern day Pashtun.

Ghandara, was in modern day Pashtun territories of Afghanistan/ Pakistan.

so if the persians called us Afghasn than they probably know where we came from or knew back than.what year was that the persians started callign us Afghans?

i dont know about the arian theory either it could be made up for political purposes or true.
it wasnt called aryanistan cuz back than -stans didnt exist.

[graveyardofempires]

here is the wikipedia link about the ten tribes.
Ten Lost Tribes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
so lets see what timeline it was and what route they took.

[KingKhan]

so if the persians called us Afghasn than they probably know where we came from or knew back than.what year was that the persians started callign us Afghans?

i dont know about the arian theory either it could be made up for political purposes or true.
it wasnt called aryanistan cuz back than -stans didnt exist.

I meant, why wasn't Afghanistan, named Aryanistan? The theory of Aryans, and Aryana is quite popular with the Tajiks, and Parsiwaans of Afghanistan, who are really ethnically Persians.

I also find it funny, that the fact that people say that Afghans made up the theory of Bani Israel, but the Aryan theory is set in stone.

[graveyardofempires]

I meant, why wasn't Afghanistan, named Aryanistan? The theory of Aryans, and Aryana is quite popular with the Tajiks, and Parsiwaans of Afghanistan, who are really ethnically Persians.

so who actually choose the name Afghanistan?
was it Ahmad Shah Durrani or Mirwais Hotak?
here is my theory : i think there were a people living in persia who werent persian and were called Afghan and then they migrated to and settled in Afghanistan and the persians knew them thats why called them Afghan.

[roadrunner]

Very low quality discussion thus far.

[Alchemist]

Very low quality discussion thus far.

thanks for your input troll

we needed it...

[Alchemist]

The timeline between Adam, and Noah, isn't to long.

prove this statement.

[Nokia_Apridy]

roadrunner da sakha makh da laray ka WALLAH sta makh rabanday bad lagey...

da sarey makh kha na wi khbara khu da sama kwe...

[KingKhan]

prove this statement.

This is coming from Ibn Kathir's Stories of the Prophets, I will copy excepts from Pg. 69-70 ( Chapter Three)
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He is Nooh Ibn Lamech Ibn Methuselan Ibn iris Ibn yard Ibn Mahaleel Ibn Qeenân Ibn Enos Ibn Sheeth Ibn Adam.

"O Messenger of Allah, was Adam a Prophet?" the Prophet replied, "Yes, a prophet who Allah spoke to." the man then asked, " then how much time was their between the two of them"? The Prophet replied " there were Ten Qarn (centuries) between the two of them."

Imam Muslim

"they were tan Qarn (centuries) between Adam and Nooh, all lived according to Islam,"

Bukhari

If a Qarn is one hundred years, then there must have been one thousand years apart.

However, if the meaning of Qarn is a generation of people, as is mentioned in the Quran. Then their could be thousands of years between Adam and Nooh. The people before Nook used to live for a long period of time.

"and how many generations (quroon) have we destroyed after Nooh." Quran 17:17

The Prophet pbuh used the word Qarn to mean a generation. The Hadith says " the best of the generations is my generations."
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Good question, you brought from my discussion, am glad somebody's paying attention.

[آريا]

The Prophet pbuh used the word Qarn to mean a generation. The Hadith says " the best of the generations is my generations."
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This hadith implies a Qarn can also refer to a long time period in classical Arabic, not just a century. The ten Quroon between Adam and Noah pbut could have been a very long time.

[KingKhan]

This hadith implies a Qarn can also refer to a long time period in classical Arabic, not just a century. The ten Quroon between Adam and Noah pbut could have been a very long time.

I was quoting Ibn Khatir

Where does Aryan come from then between them.

[Lemar]

Iran comes from Aryan, according to "scholars". And Afghanistan was called Aryana, then were was the outcry when Persia changed their name to Iran(same name)? Why are Pashtuns called Afghans by Aryans (Iranians)? And why wasn't Afghanistan called Aryanistan?

What are you trying to say? didnt I post a map of Ariana for you? Ariana did'nt only cover Afghanistan!!!!
Though the most important province was located in Afghanistan.
and please keep these in your memory that Ariana predates Persian Achaemenids!
Why are you trying to ignore some of the oldest book in human history? Like Rigveda and Avesta which talks about our land as Ariana! Please go and read some history first, you just cant say anything without having at least some information about it.
And please if Afghanistan's name was to be Ariana it wouldnt be called Arianestan! cause estan is a Persian suffix means land but in old Aryan languages we already had that suffix and that was Na!

If you ask alot of elders in Afghanistan, there going to say that Pashtuns, could be descendants of Bani Israel. But, all the "scholars" deny it, calling it a scam.

Am calling Aryans a scam, can someone ever say when these white Aryan men roamed central/ south Asia? Indus river civilization was around the same time even maybe before Egyptian. Were going back 5-6,000 years.

Pashtuns can be descendents of the exiled Hebrews. They might have mixed with the native Ghandari's, which makes modern day Pashtun.

Ghandara, was in modern day Pashtun territories of Afghanistan/ Pakistan.

First of all may Pashtuns because of being Muslim try their best to connect themselves more with Islam! and the idea of them being bani Isrealis was just an idea from from the moghouls just to keep the Pashtuns alien to the land they wanted to occupy! dont fall for such traps!
maybe some not all pashtuns are mixed with the Gandaharis, I dont have much information about that.

[Lemar]

The biggest proof that Pashtuns are Aryan is Pashtu.

[KingKhan]

Those are Hindu books, I trust Islamic/Monotheistic books more then any Polytheism one.

If Pashtuns are Aryans then Pashtuns pride of their background, is blind patriotism. As cave mens are not something to be pride full.

If Pashtuns are Aryans, then why are they called Afghans by them?

[Lemar]

Those are Hindu books, I trust Islamic/Monotheistic books more then any Polytheism one.

If Pashtuns are Aryans then Pashtuns pride of their background, is blind patriotism. As cave mens are not something to be pride full.

If Pashtuns are Aryans, then why are they called Afghans by them?

Okay so because Aryan and Ariana was not mentioned in Islamic books so you dont trust anything else? wtf!
This land was not called Ariana 14XX years ago and thats why it's not mentioned in Islamic books.

Afghan is relatively a new name and it's a Sanskrit word for the people of these areas. Again it's not Persian!

If Pashtuns are Aryans then Pashtuns pride of their background, is blind patriotism. As cave mens are not something to be pride full.

Why cavemen? what could they do thousands of years before Islam? covert to Islam?lol
Didnt I say that Islam has 124000 prophets? can you name them? maybe some of them lived in these lands but like 90% of the other prophets they were not mentioned in Quran sharif!