Pashtun???

[KingKhan]

Here's another link between Ghandari's, and Pashtuns.

Gandharas and their king figure prominently as strong allies of the Kurus against the Pandavas in Mahabharata war. The Gandharas were a furious people, well trained in the art of war. According to Puranic traditions, this Janapada was founded by Gandhara, son of Aruddha, a descendant of Yayati. The princes of this country are said to have come from the line of Druhyu who was a famous king of Rigvedic period. The river Indus watered the lands of Gandhara. According to Vayu Purana (II.36.107), the Gandharas were destroyed by Pramiti aka Kalika, at the end of Kalyuga."

Timbaktu

Isn't Pashto devised from Avesta, and Sanskrit. And isn't Aryan and sankrit word?

[roadrunner]

the ignorance is quite astounding.

[KingKhan]

Avestan and Old persian are Iranic languages while Sanskrit is Indic. all three are indo-iranian languages of indo-european language family. Ofcouse pashto will have in common with Sanskrit because they all have the same root from indo-european languages. now pashto has influences from semitic language like arabic because of islam. That doesn't mean pashtuns are semites now.

Aryan just means "noble". I think pashtuns fit that description quite nicely.

That's hella confusing bro. Theirs alot of difference between Pashto and modern day Farsi. Hindi/Urdu are more closer to Farsi then Pashto IMO.

*scratches head*


Roadrunner
Instead of calling people ignorant, Preach then! If not your being a hypocrite

[Nokia_Apridy]

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[graveyardofempires]

still confused
i thought pashtuns are Afghans but it seems we are not.

[graveyardofempires]

Kha rawan ya KING Khan ...Tima dar kha lemara mannnnnnnna

da RODA runner khbaro ta pam mkway da Topic na ba ghobal jor shi...

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[graveyardofempires]

In terms of ethnicity pashtun = Afghan,

In terms of modern nationality, pashtuns are just one of the Afghan ethnicities which live in Afghanistan. What is so confusing?

Afghan is used by outsiders to refer to us. like they refer to iranians as persians. iranians don't call themselves persians but others do. Same with Afghan, our name is pashtun but others know us as Afghan.

clear?

even more confusing
so we arent Afghans only outsiders refer to us as such?
something doesnt sound right here.

[KingKhan]

Thats because Urdu has many loan words from farsi and arabic. Can you tell me what words hindi and farsi share? I can list you many words which pashto and farsi share. Don't forget pashto is eastern iranian and farsi is western iranian, so there is bound to be some differences. pashto is more closer to eastern iranian languages like pamiri and many other.

Urdu is close ot farsi because the court language of mughals was farsi and it has left its mark on urdu. look at the national anthem of pakistan, its all in farsi except one word "ka" which is hindi. Rest is farsi.

The Hindi from Bollywood have many words that are also in Farsi. But, let's leave the details of Hindi/Urdu to another thread, and return to Pashto and Pashtuns.

[graveyardofempires]

than why arent we called Pukhtun?
why were those people calling us Afghans?
why do the hindu/pakistnis call us pathan?
what do the arabs call us?
how did the macedonians call us?

[graveyardofempires]

ok that about arabs is cleared
now what made persians call us Afghans?

[KingKhan]

ok that about arabs is cleared
now what made persians call us Afghans?

Are you trying to bring up Afghan, as being a Hebrew name, and Pashtuns as bring a tribe of Israel? Cause if you are, the subject hasn't been researched throughly.

[graveyardofempires]

Are you trying to bring up Afghan, as being a Hebrew name, and Pashtuns as bring a tribe of Israel? Cause if you are, the subject hasn't been researched throughly.

easy tiger we all want to know something here.
we will come to why hindus call us pathans after this.

[graveyardofempires]

I don't know yet why and when they called us Afghan but they did. There are again many theories regarding this and you can search on the web but they are non conclusive. This is how much I know so far but I have a book and i haven't read it yet. maybe when i finish it, it will give me some clues.

ok
waiting..........and searching on the net

[KingKhan]

I just read the Wikipedia version of Pashto history, and it was a load of spaghetti. I want the researchers name, date, nationalities. If their going to say Pashtuns are Eastern Iranic or Aryanic, and Caucasians I want the saabut. The theories of them being descendants of Israelites, and Egyptians have stronger debates then the Iranic one.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

I just read the Wikipedia version of Pashto history, and it was a load of spaghetti. I want the researchers name, date, nationalities. If their going to say Pashtuns are Eastern Iranic or Aryanic, and Caucasians I want the saabut. The theories of them being descendants of Israelites, and Egyptians have stronger debates then the Iranic one.

It is actually the other way around. Do you know the scientists names nationalities who helped create modern day aviation technology? Or the name of the thousands of scientests and inventors who have brought so much innovation to this world? What you are saying is bordering madness. What about you? What is your expertise, nationality and background that has given you the credibility to accept one theory and reject the other? Do you have any expertise in linguistics?