Pashtuns are Yeptalites, Kushans, Scythians?

[Afghanfootball]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surkh_Kotal

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabatak_inscription

This text was deciphered using Pashto. The only way they could've done this was if Bactrian was the ancestor of Pashto, or the Bactrian in the manuscript is a close sister language to the ancestor of Pashto.

Something else that may support your cliam is Pashtuns were mentioned as Pakhtiuke by Herodotus and that their way of life was identical to Bactrians just Pakhtiuke were more warlike. Also Bactria's original name was Pakhtra.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Something else that may support your cliam is Pashtuns were mentioned as Pakhtiuke by Herodotus and that their way of life was identical to Bactrians just Pakhtiuke were more warlike. Also Bactria's original name was Pakhtra.

PaKHtuye or PaKtuye, because they're not the same phonetic sound. And furthermore what about the fact that Avestan doesn't use the "KH' sound at that stage of their development. if Bactrian or the Ancient East Iranian languages derive from Avestan how would they have a phoneme that only came very recently?

Think about it.

[Aryana]

Thats pseudoscience. Not reliable at all. You need to back up your stances with some stronger facts.

You remind me of those Pashtuns who claim Parthians were Pashtuns just because Parthian and Pashtun sound close lol Its ridiculous man.

It is easy to link up the root words of both Bactrian to Pakhtun and Ebdalo to Abdali. If I need to sound it out for you, Ebdalo -> Abdalo > Abdali. Notice how you're only changing the vowels eh? There is no denying that the Abdalis were Hepthalites. In addition to this, the Hepthalites were Eastern Iranian. Probably the only warrior-like nomadic Eastern Iranian group I can think of is Pashtuns, and the geography matches up. How is that pseudoscience?
Who says that Parthians were Pakhtun? They are some nomadic group of Persians ar not they?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

It is easy to link up the root words of both Bactrian to Pakhtun and Ebdalo to Abdali. If I need to sound it out for you, Ebdalo -> Abdalo > Abdali. Notice how you're only changing the vowels eh? There is no denying that the Abdalis were Hepthalites. In addition to this, the Hepthalites were Eastern Iranian. Probably the only warrior-like nomadic Eastern Iranian group I can think of is Pashtuns, and the geography matches up. How is that pseudoscience?
Who says that Parthians were Pakhtun? They are some nomadic group of Persians ar not they?

Yet no philogical expert has ever linked up Bactrian to Pakhtun or Hephtalite to Abdali. I mean the argument is so faulty since Bactrian is close to avestan and the K sound doesn't become the SHEEN sound in Pashtun or the Kheen sound in Pakhtun.

You're peddling very old arguments that used to fly around internet forums for years. By the way I am Pashtun myself, and I don't believe this stuff.

[Aryana]

Yet no philogical expert has ever linked up Bactrian to Pakhtun or Hephtalite to Abdali. I mean the argument is so faulty since Bactrian is close to avestan and the K sound doesn't become the SHEEN sound in Pashtun or the Kheen sound in Pakhtun.

You're peddling very old arguments that used to fly around internet forums for years. By the way I am Pashtun myself, and I don't believe this stuff.

So you still don't believe? Bactrian texts today are deciphered using Pashto. If you apply some logic here, this must mean that Bactrian is either the ancestor language of Pashto, or a sister language of the real ancestor to Pashto (BTW Bactrian is similar to Avestan, which is an even older language). The kheen--> sheen switch probably came much later down in the track. What is your theory then on the ancestors to Pashtuns?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

So you still don't believe? Bactrian texts today are deciphered using Pashto. If you apply some logic here, this must mean that Bactrian is either the ancestor language of Pashto, or a sister language of the real ancestor to Pashto (BTW Bactrian is similar to Avestan, which is an even older language). The kheen--> sheen switch probably came much later down in the track. What is your theory then on the ancestors to Pashtuns?

By all means show us these deciphered Bactrian texts. I haven't seen any even when I used to argue the same line of reasoning you are right now.

Let's see the sources.

And for what it's worth, based on the current East-iranian language tree, Bactrian seems like it's more like a Paternal Uncle language to Pashto, since Pashto as a definable language only came about at BEST 1200-1000 years ago based on the evidence we have available. Long After Bactrian ceased as a spoken language.

[Firdousi]

I love when people guess and run with their own imaginary history.

Indeed man. Nationalism is BS. I know plenty of my own people who claim Khwarezmshah were Tajiks. What a joke.

We gotta leave behind our feelings and identity when it comes to analyzing history. History is history. We can not change it.

[Firdousi]

It is easy to link up the root words of both Bactrian to Pakhtun and Ebdalo to Abdali. If I need to sound it out for you, Ebdalo -> Abdalo > Abdali. Notice how you're only changing the vowels eh? There is no denying that the Abdalis were Hepthalites. In addition to this, the Hepthalites were Eastern Iranian. Probably the only warrior-like nomadic Eastern Iranian group I can think of is Pashtuns, and the geography matches up. How is that pseudoscience?
Who says that Parthians were Pakhtun? They are some nomadic group of Persians ar not they?

So.. you can not prove it?

Science is backed by facts and evidences. You don't have neither of them. No evidences claims or backs your suggestion about Pashto tracing his roots back to Bactrian. Do you know the word "asp" (horse)? "Doroogh" (lie)? "Gap" (word)? This are pure Bactrian words. Do you use them in Pashto? Dari has much more influence from Bactrian than Pashto.

[Afghanfootball]

So you still don't believe? Bactrian texts today are deciphered using Pashto. If you apply some logic here, this must mean that Bactrian is either the ancestor language of Pashto, or a sister language of the real ancestor to Pashto (BTW Bactrian is similar to Avestan, which is an even older language). The kheen--> sheen switch probably came much later down in the track. What is your theory then on the ancestors to Pashtuns?

Wror ignore the Arab and Irani trolls.

[Afghanfootball]

It is easy to link up the root words of both Bactrian to Pakhtun and Ebdalo to Abdali. If I need to sound it out for you, Ebdalo -> Abdalo > Abdali. Notice how you're only changing the vowels eh? There is no denying that the Abdalis were Hepthalites. In addition to this, the Hepthalites were Eastern Iranian. Probably the only warrior-like nomadic Eastern Iranian group I can think of is Pashtuns, and the geography matches up. How is that pseudoscience?
Who says that Parthians were Pakhtun? They are some nomadic group of Persians ar not they?

Parthians are not Persians. They were native to northeastern Iran

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Only someone insecure that their ideas can't match the test of scrutiny has to ignore anyone.

[Firdousi]

Only someone insecure that their ideas can't match the test of scrutiny has to ignore anyone.

I don't know why this guy calls me "Irani". I am from Afghanistan. Ethnically "Tajik" but my nationality comes first.

Really I did not know Pashtun nationalist hated us so much.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I don't know why this guy calls me "Irani". I am from Afghanistan. Ethnically "Tajik" but my nationality comes first.

Really I did not know Pashtun nationalist hated us so much.

The irony is, I bet he doesn't even speak Pashto.

[Samandri]

So.. you can not prove it?

Science is backed by facts and evidences. You don't have neither of them. No evidences claims or backs your suggestion about Pashto tracing his roots back to Bactrian. Do you know the word "asp" (horse)? "Doroogh" (lie)? "Gap" (word)? This are pure Bactrian words. Do you use them in Pashto? Dari has much more influence from Bactrian than Pashto.

Yea we use it. I dont know about others, but in our Marwat dialect we say "Aspa" for female and 'As" for male. Darogh is word for lie in Pashto. For 'word' we have 'takay' in Pashto.

[paulgill]

Hello all,

Ancient DNA samples can put an end to this debate, and until then the best way to prove any relationship to other ethnicities ancient or present is only through the yDNA and mtDNA lineages one carries.

So my request to all of you is to get your DNA sequencing done and know how and where you fit into the true Human History.