~ Hijabis.

[Roshina]

One more thing, Shlombay Jaan:

Let the sisters here speak for themselves. They have their own minds to use, and they can stand up for themselves. They know very well by now how to let me know that they disagree with something I say. So don't feel pressured to speak for them. If you don't know any hijabis who tell you their reasons for wearing the hijab, don't come and tell me what their reasons are when I know thousands.

Thanks.

[IamDZJ]

how old are you shlombay?

[Roshina]

how old are you shlombay?

Oh God... I wonder the same! I can guess, though.

[*Mahzala*]

Hm... I don't remember naming anyone. I said *a lot of girls* wear the hijab because it's fashionable today. I didn't say who does this.

And if you read my initial post in this thread, it said something like: All hijabis wear the hijab for different reasons, including getting respect from others -- and now we add: belief that it's mandated by God, out of compulsion from family/society, and because it's fashionable.

There are many other reasons as well.

Which part of being subject to worldwide stereotyping and hate because of wearing hijaab serves a fashionable purpose to you? Which part of being torn of your rights at the turn of world events serves a fashionable purpose to you? Which part of being pushed around, sworn at, thrown chewed food at, and run over by a car because of wearing a headscarf serves a fashionable purpose to you? You are one individual who has probably seen ten to one hundred or one thousand more girls who wear it for to cover a bad hair day, or one who wears it on and off. Those who have worn it all their lives, despite its difficulty in todays day and age, do not wear it to serve their fashion agendas. Because to a Hijaabi, fashion is not her Hijaab. Her Hijaab is the fulfilment of a Command, and one can only fully understand this when they fulfil it themselves.

And, if you ask me, a Hijaabi's fashion statement has no match.

[Dukhtar-e-Kabul]

I disagree with you Qrratugai.

I don't wear a hijab. Those that do wear it that I know do not wear it for fashion. That is silly.

[Dukhtar-e-Kabul]

Exactly Mazhala. There are woman in France who are killing themselves over the Hijab.

I don't wear the Hijab. But I will not hate on those woman who wear it. May God give me the strength to wear it. But sayinf that women wear it for a fashion is really an insult.

[JAMALUDEEN]

Which part of being subject to worldwide stereotyping and hate because of wearing hijaab serves a fashionable purpose to you? Which part of being torn of your rights at the turn of world events serves a fashionable purpose to you? Which part of being pushed around, sworn at, thrown chewed food at, and run over by a car because of wearing a headscarf serves a fashionable purpose to you? You are one individual who has probably seen ten to one hundred or one thousand more girls who wear it for to cover a bad hair day, or one who wears it on and off. Those who have worn it all their lives, despite its difficulty in todays day and age, do not wear it to serve their fashion agendas. Because to a Hijaabi, fashion is not her Hijaab. Her Hijaab is the fulfilment of a Command, and one can only fully understand this when they fulfil it themselves.

And, if you ask me, a Hijaabi's fashion statement has no match.

To be honest, i have never really met a girl who wore a hijab just for the sake of fashion. This whole discussion in here about Fashion is something new to me. So i will remain silent. Great posts.

[Dukhtar-e-Kabul]

Also show me proof where woman say they wear it for fashion. I will show you videos of woman fighting to wear it.

[IamDZJ]

she said some girls wear it for that reason which is true. she also said that every one has a different reason for wearing it. you people create issues and then build up arguments against it.

[Roshina]

Mahzala Jaan, those are not the reasons I'd give for why it's done for fashion.

If you wanna discuss it, we can; it'd, in my opinion, deserve its own focus and thread. I mean, there's this huge debate going on currently on whether hijab and fashion go hand-in-hand or not. I was under the impression that we were all aware of that, but clearly not.

I'm referring specifically to the types and styles of hijabs worn by girls who wear a lot of make-up with them and do not wear them all the time but only when around those who wear the hijab. Covering the hair is a fashionable thing these days, and you see it done even by models (which explains why you can nowadays find hijabs -- tons of them -- at pretty much every clothing store, at least in the U.S.). Further, what all do most hijabis cover? It's mostly the hair. Many wear skinny jeans with them, and their hijabs are not large enough to fall over their chest. Yet, these girls and women define modesty and hijab to be covering only the hair.

And, no, they're not a minority. Quite a large number of them wear the hijab this way.

So, if you know what I'm talking about, then you'd know why it's more fashion than for modesty or God. It just so HAPPENS that God also seems like to the headcovering, when it looks so beautiful and comes in many different colors and designs and is expensive and whatnot.

[Roshina]

she said some girls wear it for that reason which is true. she also said that every one has a different reason for wearing it. you people create issues and then build up arguments against it.

Indeed. Seems like some of us are foolish enough to assume that every single person on earth who wears a hijab wears it because she thinks it's mandatory or because she wants respect -- or for whatever reasons we ourselves might wear it for.

I know of women who wear it because to them, the hijab symbolizes freedom for Palestinians. So they say they wear it because they wanna show that they're standing with the oppressed, not just the oppressed Palestinians but oppressed groups of people all over the world. Some of these women have told me that they are wearing BECAUSE they're deemed as oppressed for wearing the hijab when they know they're not oppressed.

So that's another reason. Fashion, again and again, is then another reason. Anyone who doesn't believe it, I'm sure there's stuff online on it, so google the idea.

[Roshina]

What's up with the personal attacks?

Shlombay Jaana, remember that you can and should report EVERY SINGLE post in someone personally attacks you or that you're offended by. And that includes my posts. I have not attacked anyone, as that's not my thing. If I speak the truth and you think that's an attack, then I'll be more than happy to discuss it with you.

But again, as we say to everyone else, report any post that you are offended by. We moderators will take care of it.

[JAMALUDEEN]

Qrratugai, Interesting. I remember watching this video about the "Hijab" Fashion market which was estimated to be somewhere around 2 billion a year (do not remember the whole specifics). In that case, i do agree with you that there is a fashion trend, But you are still making a very big assumption as to the intentions of the girls, when you say "Majority" of them wear it for the sake of Fashion and not for modesty. Plus i doubt if you have met every single one of the Muslim girls to speak of MAJORITY.

I think, Assumptions are no good, unless you have solid proof. Good Posts though, keep them coming.

[Roshina]

Qrratugai, Interesting. I remember watching this video about the "Hijab" Fashion market which was estimated to be somewhere around 2 billion a year (do not remember the whole specifics). In that case, i do agree with you that there is a fashion trend, But you are still making a very big assumption as to the intentions of the girls, when you say "Majority" of them wear it for the sake of Fashion and not for modesty. Plus i doubt if you have met every single one of the Muslim girls to speak of MAJORITY.

Noooo, I've never said majority. I said "a lot" and "many," wror gula.

[JAMALUDEEN]

Noooo, I've never said majority. I said "a lot" and "many," wror gula.

I'm referring specifically to the types and styles of hijabs worn by girls who wear a lot of make-up with them and do not wear them all the time but only when around those who wear the hijab. Covering the hair is a fashionable thing these days, and you see it done even by models (which explains why you can nowadays find hijabs -- tons of them -- at pretty much every clothing store, at least in the U.S.). Further, what all do most hijabis cover? It's mostly the hair. Many wear skinny jeans with them, and their hijabs are not large enough to fall over their chest. Yet, these girls and women define modesty and hijab to be covering only the hair.

And, no, they're not a minority. Quite a large number of them wear the hijab this way.

If they are not the minority, then they are the majority. This is how i read it.