Marrying a Hazara

[ScimitarXEdge]

that's an empire doomed to failure.

[Leonine]

that empire is almost the same size as the achaemenid empire....it is not that big

[ScimitarXEdge]

Persian and Tajik Nationalists always groan about how arabs stole their culture and want to colonize them but then they turn around and want everyone to be amalgated into a "Persian Empire"
........seems the real problem is they just dont want others to interfere with their imperial goals.

[Leonine]

"persians" and tajiks now are mongrel unter mensches..... there are no persians of old remaining such as the achaemenids...those who claim they are such now are really a mixture of persian, arab, turkic and mongoloid ancestry...thats why they can never establish a persian empire of old.

[din]

salam. hazara is our brother. manana.

[retro]

Persian and Tajik Nationalists always groan about how arabs stole their culture and want to colonize

them but then they turn around and want everyone to be amalgated into a "Persian Empire"
........seems the real problem is they just dont want others to interfere with their imperial goals.

No the Persians are quite right and the Arabs rope is one that perishes in the twisting.

‪Letter of Omar, Khalifat of arabs to Shahanshah of Persia‬‏ - YouTube

‪Response from Persian King To: Omar, "Khalifat of Islam Army".‬‏ - YouTube

[retro]

"persians" and tajiks now are mongrel unter mensches..... there are no persians of old remaining such as the achaemenids...those who claim they are such now are really a mixture of persian, arab, turkic and mongoloid ancestry...thats why they can never establish a persian empire of old.

They will if they don't fall under your insidious, spell of triblism and racial supremacism. As this can only keep them weak, divided and subjugated.

[Nick]

sorry I think this needs a more new discussion section please check history section.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/pashtun-history-8/fake-history-iranians-not-surprising-since-they-have-been-past-60-years-19152/#post484369

[retro]

LOL BTW I have something for you for the second part. Iranians always make up sh*t and this letter from Yazd to Omar has never been confirmed. I found it back in 2003 in Pan-Iranianism forum whom also played role of creating many fake ideas and promoted BS words which had no importance ie such as "Iranic" non-sense.

BTW I posted this before many times its just people don't search and assume its a real letter. lol God I hate researching and re-posting old posts

All of which begs the question. Why would Iranians feel the need to make stuff like this up and why do so many people fall for it?

[IamDZJ]

sikhs and hazaras are the only people who have never made it to the black list of worlds top criminals something something. or i have been told.

[randolph85]

All of which begs the question. Why would Iranians feel the need to make stuff like this up and why do so many people fall for it?

because many persians are anti islam, and racist nationalists. the people who fall for it, are the same people as well as westerners who are also anti islam.

[Talal]

is there much difference between the Hazara people of pakistan and afghanistan ?

[retro]

because many persians are anti islam, and racist nationalists. the people who fall for it, are the same people as well as westerners who are also anti islam.

I like the way you resort to a strawman argument by equating Islamophobia with racism. Shia Islam in some sence is merely a form of Turko-Persian nationalism that arose, as a counter, cultral-political doctine to Arabs Sunni Islam. Sectarianism is always tribal in nature and sadly such conflicts are very often exploited.

[faye]

i've never seen any evidence of iran having hegemonic intent. is there any proof of this or is it just anti-iran propaganda? like that map?
the saudi arabians, the israelis and americans are all anti iran, so who is saying these things?

[ScimitarXEdge]

No the Persians are quite right and the Arabs rope is one that perishes in the twisting.

if they were right, why are they the ones who are trying to subjugate everyone else into an ETHNO-centric (greater Persia) and get us to adopt Persian identity which idealizes their ethnicity or any racial doctrine of "Master Race" as what others must adopt. Where as Muslim Arabs allowed us to be our ethnicity and have our own distinct identity and at least had a doctrine which viewed all ethnicities as having an equal playing field

(with the exception of the Ummayads, but they were deposed precisely because they weren't consistent with Islam; and they were deposed by other Arabs who saw their ways as a corruption of Islam)

I'm sorry this tells us the Arab Muslims (not Ethno-Centric Arab Nationalists) are our freinds and Persian-Nationalists are are real enemies, irregardless of whatever ethnic connections we may have with them.

by the way Yazdgird's response is a known forgery invented by Persian Nationalists; furthermore Yazgird a known for being morally perverse and more materialistically indulgent than even the Saudi Shaikhs of today who make a mockery of Islam. There was nothing noble about him.

Any logical human being would side with Muslim Arab over a Persian Nationalist.