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I agree with mastera too as it is his wish..It is my wish to do my bit for pakhtuns and marry a solid muslim pakhtana to keep the bloodline goingOriginally posted by Muslimah View Postbut will you kill your kids if they find a good muslim elsewhere?
But if my kids(if I have any insha allah) were to fall for a good muslim/muslimah of any kind and it would help them in their akhirah and their souls then I would definatly accept. Because at the end of the day our aim is jannah
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Originally posted by Muslimah View PostI am proud of you. You want that - and you said it nicely! I respect that!
but will you kill your kids if they find a good muslim elsewhere?
Ghani Khan writes in The Pathan,
Pashtoon is short of girls, and he knows well how to protect this treasure. I think, it will not be a big loss to the nation, only that person will go out of the pashtoon race. He will loose the identity, not the Pashtoon nation. If someone wants to remain and presrve the culture then he has no other choice.
Ya a good Muslim. ok
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No I will make sure they marry pashtuns, They can marry anyone but it must be a pashtun...and good familyOriginally posted by Muslimah View PostI am proud of you. You want that - and you said it nicely! I respect that!
but will you kill your kids if they find a good muslim elsewhere?
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Ghani Khan married a daughter of nawba of haider abad (indian haider abad). He did not write because he opine that way. he wrote as he thought how the pashtoon culture is?Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View PostIam sure Ghani Khan married a Parsi woman, maybe just another excuse for some Pashtuns lust for non Pashtun women/men.
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Here people do not understand the difference between opinion and realities.
How I opine may be diffferent.
But what I do is different as individual is a prisoner of society.
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Dear Nadir ShahOriginally posted by Nadir Shah View PostMalgariya, do you have a problem with her being a Parsi or her being a non-Pashtun?
I have a problem with so called Pukhtun Nationalists who marry Non Pukhtuns but then preach to us about Pashtunistan and Pashtun Unity.
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Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View PostDear Nadir Shah
I have a problem with so called Pukhtun Nationalists who marry Non Pukhtuns but then preach to us about Pashtunistan and Pashtun Unity.
Kind Regards
I think Mehsud wrora, you have fee sabeelillah animosity with Bacha Khan family. I think, it is due to this great bacha Khan, we have identity as a pashtoon nation, otherwise Gulab Khan mehsud kind of tribal leaders were selling all to Mr Jinnah.
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Malgariya, lets say that Ghani Khan was a Pashtun traitor and a Pashtun seller. What futuristic, pragmatic model can you build upon this bit of knowledge? How can this perception help our cause?Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View PostDear Nadir Shah
I have a problem with so called Pukhtun Nationalists who marry Non Pukhtuns but then preach to us about Pashtunistan and Pashtun Unity.
Kind Regards
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Dear ErlangnerOriginally posted by erlangner View PostI think Mehsud wrora, you have fee sabeelillah animosity with Bacha Khan family. I think, it is due to this great bacha Khan, we have identity as a pashtoon nation, otherwise Gulab Khan mehsud kind of tribal leaders were selling all to Mr Jinnah.
Bacha Khan family are Pakistani patriots now. So to say mr Gulab Mahsud sold himself to Jinnah is irrelevent, the main issue is, why did the Bacha Khan family opposed Mirza Ali Khans armed struggle for Pashtunistan but instead resorted to a Hindu Indian Ghandis way of things.
Bacha Khan family is only popular in his own village and Swat, in the tribal region they hate them, doesnt this tell you something.
What Identity did Bacha Khan give us? He accepted Pakistan at the end, while Mirza Ali Khan died till his last breath opposed to Pakistan.
Why dont you speak about Mahsud tribal elders now, who not long ago threaten Pakistan government to going to Afghanistan to settle, while the Bacha Khan family were being luxurously facilated in Punjab.
Kind Regards
P.S even though i oppose Taliban, but its good to see Mahsud talibs fighting Pakistan Army, than cowards who preach non violence but support bombardments of Pashtun villages by the Army
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I wasnt saying he was a Traitor, I am just saying i find so called Nationalists speaking of pashtun unity but marrying non pashtun women/men.Originally posted by Nadir Shah View PostMalgariya, lets say that Ghani Khan was a Pashtun traitor and a Pashtun seller. What futuristic, pragmatic model can you build upon this bit of knowledge? How can this perception help our cause?
Futuristic model is to demand our state by force and ANP will get in the way of that just as they did before.
By the way, my grandfather Jannat Khan Mahsud was one of bacha Khans right hand men, but sadly, They betrayed him on the grounds of his hatred towards Pakistan.
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Excellent malgariya. That is totally true. But what would help this model: that we find faults with Baacha Khan and his family and create further divisions or we call for general Pashtun unity by underlining the many contributions of Baacha Khan and his family for the Pashtun cause?Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View PostI wasnt saying he was a Traitor, I am just saying i find so called Nationalists speaking of pashtun unity but marrying non pashtun women/men.
Futuristic model is to demand our state by force and ANP will get in the way of that just as they did before.
By the way, my grandfather Jannat Khan Mahsud was one of bacha Khans right hand men, but sadly, They betrayed him on the grounds of his hatred towards Pakistan.
Kind Regards
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Strategic Maseed, your name is startegic but your are more meotional.Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View PostDear Erlangner
Bacha Khan family are Pakistani patriots now. So to say mr Gulab Mahsud sold himself to Jinnah is irrelevent, the main issue is, why did the Bacha Khan family opposed Mirza Ali Khans armed struggle for Pashtunistan but instead resorted to a Hindu Indian Ghandis way of things.
Bacha Khan family is only popular in his own village and Swat, in the tribal region they hate them, doesnt this tell you something.
What Identity did Bacha Khan give us? He accepted Pakistan at the end, while Mirza Ali Khan died till his last breath opposed to Pakistan.
Why dont you speak about Mahsud tribal elders now, who not long ago threaten Pakistan government to going to Afghanistan to settle, while the Bacha Khan family were being luxurously facilated in Punjab.
Kind Regards
P.S even though i oppose Taliban, but its good to see Mahsud talibs fighting Pakistan Army, than cowards who preach non violence but support bombardments of Pashtun villages by the Army
Where does stand the movemnt of Faqir Ipi and where is the movement of Bacha Khan? You dont feel the difference. It is misunderstood that Bacha Khan follow the gandhi ideology. Bacha Khan felt, and he felt very rightly, that pashtoons destruction is few things, first is the weapon, so he started non-violance, then he saw rhey are illitrate he started azad schools, He saw they dont come to business he symbolically started a shop in his village, he felt that pashtoons have no mdeia, he started monthly pashtoon for them.
I feel after 100 yeras he has the right strategy. What happens to them for Pakistan or something else, it is a history and written and preserved. Hository is going to decide about him, what he did and how he was.
He never opposed Mirza ALi Khan haji, it was Mirza ALi khan haji who opposed Bahca Kahn, the problem was that Hindu girl, named islam bibi or so.
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