Marriage to non-Pashtuns

[Muslimah]

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[MazloomyarMaseed]

maseeda wrora you have no right to abuse any one, i am sure you have not find the right one yet. once you find one for sure you wont even think if she is a pashtun or not. i have seen your type of people who could not get a right woman, then they will curse them. i have not married one for visa, but she had to leave her luxuries because of me. i think i am better pashtun than you i know my 3 thousand years of history, its written untill my grand father, i know my shajara for more than a thousand yaers, from mother side and father side. its your right not to marry non pashtun. we afghans are tough, we follow our traditions more closely. if a non-afghan woman can live with an afghan she is one of the best. we all have diffirent opinion but why one should be cursed for disagreeing with you.

I am married to a Pashtana. If you feel so good about encouraging out of tribal marriage, then go and accept africans as well.

You know, In my village, the elders use to make fun of Punjabis because they use to marry British women to feel and look british, same case with you buddy, You rant all day about Pakistani this and Pakistan that, and you yourself have married or dating a European, what makes you a better pashtun than me?

I know your sort, act like a Peerang, date european girls, go clubbing, i bet you feel ashamed of even being with a Pashtun girl because your so desparate like Qurratgai to be accepted in Western society.

So next time you insult Punjabis and Pakistanis, look at your damme self, because they will ask mr proud afghan, why u married a European?

Look at your fellow Afghan khalilzad whatver his name is, hes just like you, and even people i know consider him no longer a Pashtun.

Regards

[MazloomyarMaseed]

if u marry pashtun u will be pashtun but marrying other converting them thats even better then its shouldnt be a problem as long as they r gd muslim and respects u loves u and ur family wat else u want
so its not a big deal
ppl who marry non pashtoons there are some reasons, some ppl who doesnt like their own ppl (i no some1 he hates afg girls LOL) and some may fall in love with non pashtun, some wants to convert them to islaam
so ya these could be the reason
but as far as my concern person who cares and respects u, will care about u, your religion, family, culture e.g. and if not then :P

They start hating their own because they see others and they self hate.

So your using the name of Islam to turn our strong bonded people into a cense-pool similar to the west?

If a Pashtun woman marries a Negro from Africa, she should be shot.
Non Pashtun marriages are flithy and dirty, those who promote it should be jailed, those pimps who work to destroy Pashtun unity and survival of Pashtun people

[شمله ور خراساني]

They start hating their own because they see others and they self hate.

So your using the name of Islam to turn our strong bonded people into a cense-pool similar to the west?

If a Pashtun woman marries a Negro from Africa, she should be shot.
Non Pashtun marriages are flithy and dirty, those who promote it should be jailed, those pimps who work to destroy Pashtun unity and survival of Pashtun people

Actually, most Pashtuns are micture of non-Pashtun intermarrige. Have you seen Pashtuns in Pakistan lately? Some of them are more dark skinned than Punjabis.

Are you going to shoot them too?

I would love to marry a Somali or a Sudanese woman. They are good Muslims and have similar culture.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Actually, most Pashtuns are micture of non-Pashtun intermarrige. Have you seen Pashtuns in Pakistan lately? Some of them are more dark skinned than Punjabis.

Are you going to shoot them too?

I would love to marry a Somali or a Sudanese woman. They are good Muslims and have similar culture.

This is what i mean, what has skin colour got to do with anything.

Well obviously you love a sudanese and somali since they are hot breeding grounds for Wahabism, so its understandable.

If you wanna make a joke out of Pashtuns then go ahead, you can join the others and make a mockery out of Pashtuns by promoting this non sense, this is why at times, i even question what Afghan means, since Afghans are not even a race are they

When you mean good muslim, you actually mean good Wahabi.

[afghan]

I am married to a Pashtana. If you feel so good about encouraging out of tribal marriage, then go and accept africans as well.

You know, In my village, the elders use to make fun of Punjabis because they use to marry British women to feel and look british, same case with you buddy, You rant all day about Pakistani this and Pakistan that, and you yourself have married or dating a European, what makes you a better pashtun than me?

I know your sort, act like a Peerang, date european girls, go clubbing, i bet you feel ashamed of even being with a Pashtun girl because your so desparate like Qurratgai to be accepted in Western society.

So next time you insult Punjabis and Pakistanis, look at your damme self, because they will ask mr proud afghan, why u married a European?

Look at your fellow Afghan khalilzad whatver his name is, hes just like you, and even people i know consider him no longer a Pashtun.

Regards

you take from the context what ever you need. i have never discourage tribal marriages, in this forum there are many pashtuns who married to non-pashtun, i am sure they are wonderful pashtuns. i did not have to act like a british or tried to look like one. i am more whiter and have redhair than many european, but i did not do that on purpose, i was born that way so were my parents great gran d parents.

i have nothing personal gainst panjabis or their culture, they can do what ever they want, or marry whoever they want. i am not telling any one that we are graet, come and follow us, or what ever we are doing is always right, i dont like any one laughing at my culture or my people. yes i am against the panjabi, and pakistan, i consider pakistan is an illigal state, and panjabi should be kept away from our region. by marring non-pashtun no one becomes a pakistani or something else.
I am not married to a european, i am married to some one who is very close to us culturally, my wife has a great respect and love for pashtun people, she consider us as a super race, speak of us with a great respect. i am sure you have lost tribal tarditions, after living in briton may be you were born there. i have no idea. traibal people are one of the finest pashtun i have ever known, they have great respect for otehrs.

[Sheenka]

ok im agreed with but brotha i have never seen pashtun gurl married someone not from afghanistan but all our pashtun men dies for non pashtun they even change theirselves for them but if they marry pashtoon that lady would worth nothing to them.
My family is racist coz we dont marry our duaghter to other pashtuns except our relatives and family

[Muslimah]

If a Pashtun woman marries a Negro from Africa, she should be shot.
Non Pashtun marriages are flithy and dirty, those who promote it should be jailed, those pimps who work to destroy Pashtun unity and survival of Pashtun people

So...Q takes hadiths and fabricates them to suit herself? I disagree - you're taking what Islam teaches - throwing it in the garbage and creating your own. So, if a Pashtun woman marries a devout Muslim who may happen to be Egyptian (or an african Monkey as you would put it) - she should be killed? You are disgusting.

I think the problem is your mentality is filthy and dirty - and thats why you're having so much hate in this thread. You need to stop being so racist - and if you can't ... keep it to yourself. Control your wife and your poor poor offspring - but keep in mind you can't control the world. And you can't convince people that marrying a good Muslim as a great shame unless they are Pashtun. Islam first, culture second. Maybe you need to brush up on your faith...

And this nonsense about PIMPS. It needs to stop. I mean - thats assuming all Africains are pimps. Thats like saying all pashtuns are terrorists. You're insane! Muslim women know whats good for them...and I would prefer any girl on here to marry a non-pashtun as long as it meant they wouldnt wind up with someone like you!

[Sheenka]

ya but one thing is for sure they r mostly unsuccessful marriages
And i say that coz i have seen them

[Roshina]

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[Roshina]

@ Maseed bro:

Dude, calm down. You need a better argument. So far, ALL you're saying is telling people they should be shot for marrying outside of the Pukhtun race. Geez. Speak for yourself, 'cause very very few, if any at all, Pukhtuns will actually agree with you.

As for your comments regarding me and my beliefs, they're utterly baseless. So, unless you can back up your claims against/about me with MY posts (e.g., "Qrratugai fabricates hadiths. Here's proof."), don't bothering wasting your breath and time, bro.

And that's hilarious, man :p Just because the tiny box your brain is stuffed in can't handle the things I say, can't address my challenges in an *educated and mature* manner, doesn't mean you twist what I say -- not that it bothers me, though. Anyone who can read well and think critically knows how much you twist what people say, especially the comments of people you disagree with. I give a scientific fact that humans and monkeys (apes) have over 98% the same DNA, and to YOU, that somehow translate into "Qrratugai is an atheist," LOL. Shows how good of a reader you are, buddy -- and how much knowledge about science you have. Your comments about other races make perfect sense now.

Also, I'm REALLY confused about your views. One day, you're pro-Taliban; the next day, you hate them. One day, you're a Pashtun nationalist; the next day, you're completely against nationalism. One day, you tell people not to bring Islam into everything and that Pashtuns come before everything and religion shouldn't matter (here and there), but then in other posts of yours, you start preaching Islam!

There are SO many contradictions in your posts that it's quite difficult, dear brother, to keep up with your views! Who knows what your beliefs will be tomorrow? It's also obvious that depending on who you talk to, you start following their beliefs instead of making up your own mind.

That's not to be rude or anything, of course. It's only to say - what exactly DO you think about ANY matter? It's a different opinion in the same sections of the same forum daily.

As evidence, I'd like to give links to some of your contradictory remarks.

- http://pashtunforums.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=154
- (And you wonder why Pashtuns are so easily misled in the name of Islam? I think the answer to this question lies in your posts in this very thread, along with a ton of others.) http://pashtunforums.com/showthread....1862#post41862

- (You insult others and then you wonder why others are insulting you? ... Seriously? (NOTE: No, I don't beleive that if someone insults you, you should insult them back. But you should treat others the way you want them to treat YOU. If you treat them with contempt, there's NOTHING special or good about YOU that they should be talking to you with ANY respect whatsoever.) http://pashtunforums.com/showthread....1836#post41836

To go through each one is a pain in the toe, BUT don't you worry - I'll give more evidence of your confusion.

Anyway, stick to the topic, folks. You simply state why you agree or disagree with inter-racial marriages, or marriages of Pashtuns to non-Pashtuns, and STOP insulting people just because they don't have a problem with marrying outsiders. How silly, how ignorant, how LOW of us to expect all people of our race to think the same way we do! Pashtuns may share the same blood and culture and direct ancestors, BUT they don't always share the same personal views. Live with it.

[Sheenka]

What are mostly unsuccessful marriages?

ppl who marries someone not from their tribe, coz they cant adjust as we know pashtoon's culture is quite hard and so the langauge too. But there lots of other afghan in afghanistan who married pashtoons and they do adjust and have happy life, as my family (MASHALLAH)
my grandma is farsi spoken and mum as well however they r from the same province, but still there scent of racist little bit LOL

[Master Khan]

Well my family have always marry in the same tribe and village...I am also engaged in the village and tribe and I will make sure it stay that way.

[Sheenka]

Well my family have always marry in the same tribe and village...I am also engaged in the village and tribe and I will make sure it stay that way.

mubarak
thats great, mashallah
good luck

[Muslimah]

Well my family have always marry in the same tribe and village...I am also engaged in the village and tribe and I will make sure it stay that way.

I am proud of you. You want that - and you said it nicely! I respect that!
but will you kill your kids if they find a good muslim elsewhere?