Marriage to non-Pashtuns

[parsiwaan]

I absolutely despise the word Afghanistani. It's not even an actual word :roll:



*nods* judging from obaidullah jan's songs, it is!

I know this Dinasor kha...from another forum...he is anti-afghanistan and tries hard to put Afghans against Pakhtunistani Pashtons... i think he is a Hindko or something that has learned pashto...be careful.

[parsiwaan]

afghanistani pashtuns are most mixed ones, usually with tajiks.
it seems i more aware of u of afghanistan than u.

Maybe but racially there is no diff between Tajik and Pashton both are part of Irano-Afghan race.

[parsiwaan]

Thing with Pashtuns is that they 're being too harsh on their children when it comes to marriage. I also fell in love with one but our fault was that I'm from Pashtunkhwa 'n she from Afghanistan, 'n that my Pashtu is extremely weak. It boiled my blood even more when I heard she got engaged to a Tajek.

Most afghans look down on pakistan...even those from peshware are consider culture-less...maybe that is the cause...specially after what pakistan did to afghanistan... I know a afghan guy who wanted to marry a ****...his family was so against it that they disowned the guy...throw him out...and did not even went to his wedding. People in afghanstian really hate p**** specially after strategic depth.

[parsiwaan]

Exactly, Laghman is very diverse. And the Tajiks are considered as Pashtuns because they have respected and assimilated themselves into the Pashtun community, and they are quite Patriotic too. They have been welcomed, and there arent any problems.

What is pashton culture and what is tajik culture? last i check both were exactly teh same with exceptation that pashton speak pashto and tajik speak Persian... now how you define a pashton? I myself am pashton by blood from both my parents but i speak only Persian so i do not consider myself Pashton.

[parsiwaan]

It is not that afghans consider pakistani pashtuns inferior.
Giving their daughters in far place and another country is very difficult decision for parents.

I do not consider anyone inferior...let alone those that i share blood with.

[parsiwaan]

^You are absolutely WRONG.

Well how so? How you define a pashton? For me its all about langauge...if i speak Dari as first lagnauge and do not understand pashto then im not a Pashton...even though my family is Pashton. I personally do not care about being pashton or not... nor i feel proud of my family being big shot back home during kings time... i was raised in Persian culture--Kabul... and honestly i have more in common with those that speak Persian then those that speak pashto.

[parsiwaan]

^Pashtuns are known to be far more conservative though. For example, despite me being from Kabul and being a Tajik I can be honest enough to admit that my peers drink, club and have had pre-marital sex. But my Pashtana friends, They always wear Hijabs and you barely ever see them out.

Can i ask u something personal? did you had those thing? i mean you can not generalize...now not all tajiks are modern. and not all pashotns are conservative... people of Kabul are totally diff story...its capital and most of kabulies...pashton, and tajiks are way modernized... and you know Mohamdzia are way more librial then any tajik kabuli i have seen...

[parsiwaan]

^That is a theory

Wt Irano-afghan race? No its a classfication of most of Afghans..specially Tajik and Pashton.

[parsiwaan]

Mohammadzai are the most liberal out of anyone. I agree,

Have you ever heard of "Namaz jaaney, Pathan jaaney?"

Pashtuns are known to be ultra-religious.


Welcome here bro. Introduce yourself in our New members section.

THat is the styertype... do you know in Shinwaar they exchange their wife with donkey? Im not making it up... u can research... there is even a joke that a Shiwari guy dies and his two son were dividing his belonging... their mom and a dog was left... the older brother ask him if he wants the dog or mother... the younger guy replied "Adee ba sekoo... spag gharaam che ghapee."

[parsiwaan]

Its not "ALL" about language. Language plays a major role with it.

If someone speaks Pashto, I consider them Pashtun. Why? Cause at times, I can say they are also an ethno-linguistic group.


However, If your dad is a Pashtun, and he is not your step dad, and you were born to him. Then ofcourse you are Pashtun.

You are a farsi-zaban Pashtun. But you are a PASHTUN. You may hate being called a Pashtun (maybe) but that is the truth.

I do not hate or love being called pashton... i honestly don't care...all I care is that I’m Afghan... tribes or ethnic is useless for me.. i have seen enough in 28 years of my life to base my opinion that for common people of Afghanistan ethnic is bs.

[parsiwaan]

Source please, Thanks.

Provide me a source that says, PASHTUN=AFGHAN except linguistic differences.

hu? I never say Pashton=Afghan... are you trying to put words in my mouth? I said racially Tajik and Pashtons are the same and here is my sources.

http://carnby.altervista.org/troe/11-04.htm

[parsiwaan]

^Its not a stereotype. Pashtuns are known to be much more conservative and protective. They honor and respect us woman.

Honor? u mean selling their daughter or treating their female like position? jeez there are a lot of kids here so i do not want to sound like anit-pashton which im not just for the record... but lets be honest here...there are good and bad in very people.

[parsiwaan]

What you mean its useless? How is it useless?

Use-less in a way that i do not care for things that i had no saying in it nor that i gain it throw my work, or achievement. Being born to Pashtons parents were simply an act of god/nature. which i had no saying in it...so for me its use-less.

[parsiwaan]

I apologize,

What I meant was Pashtun=Tajik

which you said earlier.

You owe me another apology bro.
ahahah I never said that... if Pashton=Tajik then wts the point in calling Tajiks Tajik? : All i said was racially Pashton are tajik are same.

[parsiwaan]

You are wrong again,

Did your dad treat your mom like that? Since you are generalizing again. I can already say no he did not.

Pashtun are known to defend the honor of us woman. Its why despite me being a Pashtana, I am attracted to my culture. I live in the USA, No one is forcing me to follow Pashtunwali.

I told u I do not consider myself pashton...for simple reason that we do not speak pashto...moreover my parents are highly educated we were urbanized Afghan aristocracy during kings time...so we are not typical type.