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  • Midnight, according to the website, south west asian is actually a mix of south asian and west asian. In fact I think it is actually more south indian, rather than south west arabian, because south indians have 58% of that component. I wish they divided it by actual regions, because it is confusing

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    Last edited by Karachi; 04-03-2013, 09:42 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
      Midnight, according to the website, south west asian is actually a mix of south asian and west asian. Infact I think it is acutally more south indian, rather than south west arabian, because south indians have 58% of that component. I wish they divided it by actual regions, because it is confusing

      https://genographic.nationalgeograph...e-populations/
      Under the section for Southwest and Southeast Asian, it mentions this specifically:

      Southwest Asian

      This component of your ancestry is found at highest frequencies in India and neighboring populations, including Tajikistan and Iran in our reference dataset. It is also found at lower frequencies in Europe and North Africa. As with the Mediterranean component, it was likely spread during the Neolithic expansion, perhaps from the eastern part of the Fertile Crescent. Individuals with heavy European influence in their ancestry will show traces of this because all Europeans have mixed with people from Southwest Asia over tens of thousands of years.

      Southeast Asian

      This component of your ancestry is found at highest frequencies in the populations of southeast Asia and India, particularly in the northeast Indian and Vietnamese populations in our reference set. It is also found at lower frequency in populations from Oceania, where it persists as a signal of the Austronesian migrations into the region beginning ~5,000 years ago—a migration that would eventually colonize Polynesia. Interestingly, it is also found in the population of Madagascar, brought there by the seafaring Austronesians around 2,000 years ago.

      Here is the description of Mediteranean:

      This component of your ancestry is found at highest frequencies in southern Europe and the Levant—people from Sardinia, Italy, Greece, Lebanon, Egypt and Tunisia in our reference populations. While not limited to these groups, it is found at lower frequencies throughout the rest of Europe, the Middle East, Central and South Asia. This component is likely the signal of the Neolithic population expansion from the Middle East, beginning around 8,000 years ago, likely from the western part of the Fertile Crescent.

      As you can see, they are not actually the same thing.

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      • Interesting URL, shows 50% of UK are south west asian and mediterranean, always thought they were 90% Northern European
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        Originally posted by Karachi
        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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        • Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
          Is 51% paternal haplogroup rare in other races?
          Manzareh,

          Because of the wide dispersal pattern of R1a, any ethnicities having 50% or greater homogeneity is considered significant.

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          • Originally posted by Midnight_Sun View Post
            Manzareh,

            Because of the wide dispersal pattern of R1a, any ethnicities having 50% or greater homogeneity is considered significant.
            I see.. so if the Pashtuns on average have over 50%, does this basically mean Pashtuns are a homogenous race?
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            Originally posted by Karachi
            like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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            • Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
              I see.. so if the Pashtuns on average have over 50%, does this basically mean Pashtuns are a homogenous race?
              Id say that warrants it in terms of R1a1a only. Pashtuns are obviously mixed overall and regionally influenced.

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              • Has anyone noticed that the pashtuns of uruzgan and the Wardak tribe in general look a bit mongoloid? I have noticed this with this wardak family i know and they look a bit different then us.
                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                -Old Pashtun proverb




                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                • I've noticed it with pashtuns from uruzgan but those from wardak look normal to me
                  Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun
                  I still remember those pieces of garbage asking US presidents, when they visit, stuff like "why can't we (India) teach them (Pakistan) a lesson?". Morr kus de ughaym.. f*cking indiot garbage. I f*cking hate them so f*cking much. Afkoonis jumping on indiot d*ck is f*cking annoying too.

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                  • Originally posted by Adam View Post
                    I've noticed it with pashtuns from uruzgan but those from wardak look normal to me
                    Maybe its only with this Wardak family. But your'e right the majority of Wardaks don't have that look. I think the Uruzgan Pashtuns look a bit different. Maybe they have a few hazara admixtures? Who knows.
                    "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                    -Old Pashtun proverb




                    "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                    • Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                      Has anyone noticed that the pashtuns of uruzgan and the Wardak tribe in general look a bit mongoloid? I have noticed this with this wardak family i know and they look a bit different then us.
                      I've noticed it with my Uncle's wife's family. They're Mangal, and they appear slightly Turkic, though not too heavily mongoloid. She often gets mistaken for being of Turkish origin because of the shape of cheekbones.
                      True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us. - Socrates

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                      • Originally posted by pashtanajan View Post
                        I've noticed it with my Uncle's wife's family. They're Mangal, and they appear slightly Turkic, though not too heavily mongoloid. She often gets mistaken for being of Turkish origin because of the shape of cheekbones.
                        Have you, or anyone in your family gotten mistaken for east asian?
                        "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                        -Old Pashtun proverb




                        "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                        • Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                          Have you, or anyone in your family gotten mistaken for east asian?
                          I've never been mistaken for East Asian and nor has my immediate family. One of my uncles has some Asian features, but they're not overly pronounced. He can pass for an Uzbek. He looks nothing like my other uncles.

                          I smell something fishy...

                          Lol.
                          True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us. - Socrates

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                          • Originally posted by pashtanajan View Post
                            I've never been mistaken for East Asian and nor has my immediate family. One of my uncles has some Asian features, but they're not overly pronounced. He can pass for an Uzbek. He looks nothing like my other uncles.

                            I smell something fishy...

                            Lol.
                            Maybe some members in your family mixed with uzbeks in the past? lol.


                            Btw, what do you guys think of this man: He is daudallah Akhund of the kakar tribe from uruzgan. Do you think he looks a bit Turkic?

                            "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                            -Old Pashtun proverb




                            "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                            • Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                              Maybe some members in your family mixed with uzbeks in the past? lol.


                              Btw, what do you guys think of this man: He is daudallah Akhund of the kakar tribe from uruzgan. Do you think he looks a bit Turkic?

                              He looks Turkic. The lower portion of his face doesn't, but the upper portion (especially the eyes) look Turkic. But maybe he's just old, and his face is drooping, and he's in need of eyeglasses? Who knows? Lol.
                              True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us. - Socrates

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                              • Originally posted by pashtanajan View Post
                                He looks Turkic. The lower portion of his face doesn't, but the upper portion (especially the eyes) look Turkic. But maybe he's just old, and his face is drooping, and he's in need of eyeglasses? Who knows? Lol.
                                Yeah the big lower lip and wide nose is a huge giveaway. Do you ever wonder why some pashtuns look like that? I thought i was a master at telling who is pashtun and who is not just by looking at them.
                                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                                -Old Pashtun proverb




                                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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