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  • Originally posted by shlombay
    what is the Pashto word for disobedient.
    Usually when someone is disobedient, we say "Plankay speenstargey dey".
    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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    • Originally posted by Luffy View Post
      For hairs word " weshtan" or "wekhtan" is used. In our area boys keep long hairs over neck and ears, we call it "balache". Do you people have heard of this word?
      Hair=wexta

      In English their really isn't a special word for a "female horse". We just call it a horse.

      Never heard of balache, what dialect you speak?

      How would you say racist?

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      • Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
        Usually when someone is disobedient, we say "Plankay speenstargey dey".
        We use "Speen Stargey" for a person who doesn't care anyone.....che da cha lihaaz na' kayee hagha ta speen stargey waayu.......while disobedient is a person who doesn't act upon one's advice and orders.....
        Na soz sho na saaz sho,
        Bas hasy jwand tamam sho

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        • Originally posted by Luffy View Post
          For hairs word " weshtan" or "wekhtan" is used. In our area boys keep long hairs over neck and ears, we call it "balache". Do you people have heard of this word?
          Lol....in our area boys usually didn't keep hair like you mentioned.....we would say "Zulfey" for long hairs....What do marwat mean by "channhey"?
          Na soz sho na saaz sho,
          Bas hasy jwand tamam sho

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          • Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
            Usually when someone is disobedient, we say "Plankay speenstargey dey".
            Like Yousafzai Pakhtun said, this would apply more to someone who is careless of carefree of others expectations, commands or advice. Speen stergay would be the adjective. So what is the act of being speen stergay, yaane the verb? Speen stergi tob? The reason I say this is because I assume you cannot use this word in every instance, no?

            I stick to na farmaana/ na farmaani.

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            • Originally posted by *Mahzala* View Post
              Like Yousafzai Pakhtun said, this would apply more to someone who is careless of carefree of others expectations, commands or advice. Speen stergay would be the adjective. So what is the act of being speen stergay, yaane the verb? Speen stergi tob? The reason I say this is because I assume you cannot use this word in every instance, no?

              I stick to na farmaana/ na farmaani.
              No, no! In our dialect it has a much deeper meaning. It's not about being carefree of other expectations. It's much more than that. To say you are speen stargey means that you are being exactly disobedient. I asked you to do something for me, and you offered me the cold-shoulder. That would be viewed as speen stargey by a Kandahari. If I ask you to go home at 11PM and your still outside at 1AM, you are committing speenstargeytob. Kandaharis use it very often, I am sure Mayana and others can co-sign this. It has a much deeper meaning to it in our dialect. To be tagged as speen stargay, woah, trust. It's much more than just being careless.

              Careless would be more like = "Plankay da hichhi pa kisa ke nada".
              Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

              A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

              For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


              The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

              -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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              • Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
                We use "Speen Stargey" for a person who doesn't care anyone.....che da cha lihaaz na' kayee hagha ta speen stargey waayu.......while disobedient is a person who doesn't act upon one's advice and orders.....
                We use it for disobedience. If your dad tells you to do your homework, and your still posting on PF, you will be considered a speenstargay. We use it for all types of incidents of disobedience. It's a pretty common term in our dialect.

                "Plankay zma pa khula wa nakra, speenstargaydey[In a harsh tone]."
                Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                • Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                  No, no! In our dialect it has a much deeper meaning. It's not about being carefree of other expectations. It's much more than that. To say you are speen stargey means that you are being exactly disobedient. I asked you to do something for me, and you offered me the cold-shoulder. That would be viewed as speen stargey by a Kandahari. If I ask you to go home at 11PM and your still outside at 1AM, you are committing speen stargey. Kandaharis use it very often, I am sure Mayana and others can co-sign this.
                  So do Kunarhi's

                  Sure, the last thing I would want to be called is a speen stergay person, and I do know its connotations are deep. No, my point was, it is different and not equivalent to being disobedient, no?

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                  • Originally posted by *Mahzala* View Post
                    So do Kunarhi's

                    Sure, the last thing I would want to be called is a speen stergay person, and I do know its connotations are deep. No, my point was, it is different and not equivalent to being disobedient, no?
                    I am glad you understand the deep meaning of speenstargay. It's not just being careless, psh, I wish it was that simple. It can't be the equivalent, but it has developed into being something ~ close to it. Being speenstargay can be equated to being disobedient, but not just that, It's much more. If one is disobedient, he/she can earn the title of speenstargay. And believe me, It's really an insult to be called a speenstargay.

                    Who would've thought white eyes would have such a deep meaning.
                    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                    • Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                      I am glad you understand the deep meaning of speenstargay. It's not just being careless, psh, I wish it was that simple. It can't be the equivalent, but it has developed into being something ~ close to it. Being speenstargay can be equated to being disobedient, but not just that much more than that. If one is disobedient, he/she can earn the title of speenstargay. And believe me, It's really an insult to be called a speenstargay.

                      Who would've thought white eyes would have such a deep meaning.
                      Insult, indeed. I once heard these words: Yaara no, dera speen sterge ye, tse derta wowayma. Let's just say it came from an unsatisfied sibling who wanted more than I provided.

                      White eyes kana. I like the translation. I do it all the time. Sounds relatively less harsh.

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                      • Originally posted by *Mahzala* View Post
                        Insult, indeed. I once heard these words: Yaara no, dera speen sterge ye, tse derta wowayma. Let's just say it came from an unsatisfied sibling who wanted more than I provided.

                        White eyes kana. I like the translation. I do it all the time. Sounds relatively less harsh.
                        I apologize if this might sound derailing, but which other province/city of Pakistan/Afghanistan is your Kunarhi dialect similar too? Is it more like the Afridi dialect?

                        Today I met someone from Mardan, we had an extremely difficult time understanding each other. The most weirdest and unique moment was when he said "Tapos waka". And I was like sure "za ba poshtana wakama". The beauty of Pashto is it's dialects. I love them all.
                        Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                        A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                        For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                        The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                        -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                        • I am also from Mardan District........and yea we usually say Tapos instead Poshtana.....the latter is mostly used in written pashto though.....
                          Na soz sho na saaz sho,
                          Bas hasy jwand tamam sho

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                          • Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                            I apologize if this might sound derailing, but which other province/city of Pakistan/Afghanistan is your Kunarhi dialect similar too? Is it more like the Afridi dialect?

                            Today I met someone from Mardan, we had an extremely difficult time understanding each other. The most weirdest and unique moment was when he said "Tapos waka". And I was like sure "za ba poshtana wakama". The beauty of Pashto is it's dialects. I love them all.
                            With regards to my personal life here, I have only met Pashtuns from Wardak, a few from Nangarhar and a few Shinwari. And with regards to understanding them, it is just fine. On this forum on the other hand, I happen to understand the Afridi dialect quite easily, a few members from Laghman have spoken which I have understood and the Yusufzai dialect which seems like a piece of cake (not limited to these dialects, just examples at the top of my head). Again, I answer your question based on my own understanding, not a general idea of my dialect.

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                            • I think the most difficult dialect in Pukhtunkhwa is The Banochi one......one of my colleague is living with for the last couple of years yet i hardly understand his pashto....
                              Na soz sho na saaz sho,
                              Bas hasy jwand tamam sho

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                              • Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
                                I think the most difficult dialect in Pukhtunkhwa is The Banochi one......one of my colleague is living with for the last couple of years yet i hardly understand his pashto....
                                Do you mind sharing a few sentences?

                                I mean, for you to say it is hard, I am sure it is something out of the ordinary.

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