Split Discussion: Should Pashto Be Standardised with a Roman Script?

[khushal]

I haven't read thru the entire thread. But addressing Toranama's point:



There isn't a need to supplant Pashtun heritage to facilitate this. If you want to transfer the world's knowledge to Pashtuns then just make sure that start learning English at a young age.

Nothing wrong with learning another language and actually recommend it but is it not more effecient to have a few translaters translate the knowledge published in English into pashto rather than build institutions, hire thousands of english teachers, write millions of books that would teach pashtuns kids english. Should you and I learn Greek just to absorb the knowledge of scholars like Socrates, Plato, Aristotle or French to absorb the knowledge of Decarte?

[khushal]

you guys call everything stupid without knowing what stupid is. An intellectual would present his/her intellectual reasons. You guys dont have reasons that why Latin alphabet based pashto should not be promoted.

Its already been debated to death, go back to the beginning of the thread.

[SiiNii]

Nothing wrong with learning another language and actually recommend it but is it not more effecient to have a few translaters translate the knowledge published in English into pashto rather than build institutions, hire thousands of english teachers, write millions of books that would teach pashtuns kids english. Should you and I learn Greek just to absorb the knowledge of scholars like Socrates, Plato, Aristotle or French to absorb the knowledge of Decarte?

English makes it more convenient since you have it all at your fingertips vs waiting for a translation to become available. If you have a computer / internet problem and you google it , how many helpful results do you get in English vs any other language? # Wikipedia entries in English vs anything else? Pashtuns who go abroad for advanced studies and technical training will need to have a decent level of English.

The traditional brick and mortar school is obsolete aside from its engineering and science laboratories. And in Afghanistan they're not an efficient use of development aid funds. Why not have village laptops, radio receivers and local electrical generation vs building a girls' school that gets closed by the Taiban? Localized solutions also allow women to study at home in accordance with Pashtun customs (as I understand them).

Language learning is mostly auto-didactic, the role of the classroom teacher can be limited to that of a speech and accent coach, and this can be done remotely if at all. You don't need to know how to speak English well to get most of the benefits from understanding English.

I think English as a mandatory subject would offer more to the youth of Afghanistan than depending on small numbers of tarjumanan.

[khushal]

^^ we are talking about an effecient way of transferring knowledge. You cant get 30 million people to learn English instantly, it take to much time and resources but you can easily have books translated from Enlgish, Arabic, Persian, Russian, German, etc, it almost takes no time at all. Its like telling US generals to learn Chinese and then read Sun Tzu's "The Art of War."
Thats just not practical and it does not work.

[gull4gullab]

hi

[SiiNii]

He was Jewish?

[SiiNii]

Got skills?: The study of Pashto – The Express Tribune
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The Express Tribune surveyed 100 participants attending a Pohan Foundation conference on ‘Mother languages’ at Nishtar Hall on Thursday.

The participants coming from varying backgrounds were assessed on their ability to understand and write Pashto and were asked to translate certain words from Urdu to Pashto.

Out of the 100, 28% were able to write the Pashto word for ‘Karobar, Rozgar’ (business) while 61% gave wrong answer, while 1% did not respond. For the second word ‘Akhbar, Rozpanra ’ (newspaper), 45% gave the correct answer while 34% gave the wrong answer and there was no answer from 21%. Similarly, 47% gave the correct word for ‘Pait, Kheta’ (stomach), 35% were incorrect and 18% did not respond.

When asked to write the word ‘Zuban, Jaba’ (Language), 61% people were successful – 21% were unable to write it in Pashto.

Pohan Foundation Chairman Dr Ayaz Barkwal Miankhel said languages need to be converted into Roman English for easy communication worldwide. “We can easily communicate in Pashto then,” claimed Miankhel.

“A survey revealed 90% schools don’t teach Pashto to children, despite the passage of the 18th Amendment,” stated Miankhel. He also presented a number of pictures showing government buildings and political parties’ advertisements using the language incorrectly.

Makes sense to me. You could teach both side by side, similar to how its done in language learning books.

[Karachi]

all languages and their scripts should be preserved

[khushal]

Got skills?: The study of Pashto – The Express Tribune
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Makes sense to me. You could teach both side by side, similar to how its done in language learning books.

already debunked, go back to beginning of thread. You guys are repeating yourselves.